No DX ?

[73 Ya All]

From the lack of posts here -- one might conclude that with summer here and
declining SS Cycle -- there is no DX to be had.

Well according to Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin: there were 214 countries active.
URL: http://www.papays.com/opdx.html

And on 6M, folks on the east coast are working Europe, West Coast has worked
Japan and Alaska, and both have worked the Caribbean in the last 4 or 5
weeks.
URL: http://dxworld.com/50prop.html

THE OLD DXER

The sunspots were roaring and the Old Dxer was working DX night and day.

The faithful XYL had had it with his QRZing and blew her stack.


"DX DX DX - that's all you ever think about!" she groaned


"Why I'll bet you don't even remember our wedding date!!"

"I mostly certainly do" was the immediate reply."


"It was June 14th, 1958 - That's the night I worked the XT1, the CRØ, and
the AC4!!"


GD DX et. al.
73 Ya All

73 Ya All <73 Ya > wrote:
> From the lack of posts here -- one might conclude that with summer here and
> declining SS Cycle -- there is no DX to be had.

Most of the posts here haven't had much to do with DX, lately. :-)
We've been arguing about internet "radio" and BPL.

> "It was June 14th, 1958 - That's the night I worked the XT1 .. and
> the AC4!!"

If it was ME, I promise I'll send him a QSL real soon. ;-)

--AC4RD

73 Ya All <73 Ya > wrote:
> From the lack of posts here -- one might conclude that with summer here and
> declining SS Cycle -- there is no DX to be had.

Most of the posts here haven't had much to do with DX, lately. :-)
We've been arguing about internet "radio" and BPL.

> "It was June 14th, 1958 - That's the night I worked the XT1 .. and
> the AC4!!"

If it was ME, I promise I'll send him a QSL real soon. ;-)

--AC4RD

[Jackie]

> From the lack of posts here -- one might conclude that with summer here
and
> declining SS Cycle -- there is no DX to be had.

I (tried) to work the contest last weekend... only got *7* contacts, only
three of them DX. I was mostly on 20 meters, using my friend's Yaesu HF rig
and a Cubex Quad antenna w/rotator mounted up high on the roof. Putting out
only 100 watts, but still people had a very hard time hearing me. Things
were no better with the Gap vertical.

> And on 6M, folks on the east coast are working Europe, West Coast has
worked
> Japan and Alaska, and both have worked the Caribbean in the last 4 or 5
> weeks.
> URL: http://dxworld.com/50prop.html

That's the hot band right now... wish I had access to it, but the friend
whose shack I have access to doesn't have an HF + 6 meter rig right now.

Gud DX (but probably not 'til after summer's out),

Jackie

[Jackie]

> From the lack of posts here -- one might conclude that with summer here
and
> declining SS Cycle -- there is no DX to be had.

I (tried) to work the contest last weekend... only got *7* contacts, only
three of them DX. I was mostly on 20 meters, using my friend's Yaesu HF rig
and a Cubex Quad antenna w/rotator mounted up high on the roof. Putting out
only 100 watts, but still people had a very hard time hearing me. Things
were no better with the Gap vertical.

> And on 6M, folks on the east coast are working Europe, West Coast has
worked
> Japan and Alaska, and both have worked the Caribbean in the last 4 or 5
> weeks.
> URL: http://dxworld.com/50prop.html

That's the hot band right now... wish I had access to it, but the friend
whose shack I have access to doesn't have an HF + 6 meter rig right now.

Gud DX (but probably not 'til after summer's out),

Jackie

[Jackie]

> wrote in message
...

> I worked around 20 countries in the IARU HF contest, 70 watts
> into a horizontal loop. None of them were new ones for me,
> but I also worked the FO/G4MFW operation, not part of the contest
> but during it--Australs was a new one. I missed the solar peak;
> I was inactive for 3 years. Maybe it looks worse to people
> who were active during the peak, because you have great conditions
> to compare it to.

That is great! You said you have a horizontal loop-- where is it and how
large is it?

I worked my first 100 DX entities since I got my General last January, and
the bulk of them were in the late winter and early spring. So I have not
been on the air for very long at all. I just know that I experienced some
really great propagation last winter from my location.

However, I've only worked less than perhaps 12 new ones since about late
April, and curiously enough, five of them were in the South Pacific region /
Australs (TX4PG, Marquesas; F0/F8CFU, Tubuia Island; ZK1AYL, South Cooks;
5W0GW, Western Samoa; and T2YL on Tuvalu). I have noticed that propagation
is much better to and from this area of the world than it was last winter. I
didn't hear any Pacific stations until about April.

I can't wait to get my station set up in my new place, even though I'm going
to be needing a "stealth" HF antenna. Not more "easy" DX from a tall
vertical anymore. :-( I am moving into an apartment, so I cannot put my
dipole or vertical up there. I am thinking of an HF mobile style antenna,
such as the High Sierra El Dorado, or the High-Q. Will need some wire
radials, but those can be easily dropped off the edges of the balcony.

Anyway, have fun and I hope that this winter sees better propagation. I
can't wait for the sunspot cycle to go back on the upswing again.

73 de Jackie

[Jackie]

> wrote in message
...

> I worked around 20 countries in the IARU HF contest, 70 watts
> into a horizontal loop. None of them were new ones for me,
> but I also worked the FO/G4MFW operation, not part of the contest
> but during it--Australs was a new one. I missed the solar peak;
> I was inactive for 3 years. Maybe it looks worse to people
> who were active during the peak, because you have great conditions
> to compare it to.

That is great! You said you have a horizontal loop-- where is it and how
large is it?

I worked my first 100 DX entities since I got my General last January, and
the bulk of them were in the late winter and early spring. So I have not
been on the air for very long at all. I just know that I experienced some
really great propagation last winter from my location.

However, I've only worked less than perhaps 12 new ones since about late
April, and curiously enough, five of them were in the South Pacific region /
Australs (TX4PG, Marquesas; F0/F8CFU, Tubuia Island; ZK1AYL, South Cooks;
5W0GW, Western Samoa; and T2YL on Tuvalu). I have noticed that propagation
is much better to and from this area of the world than it was last winter. I
didn't hear any Pacific stations until about April.

I can't wait to get my station set up in my new place, even though I'm going
to be needing a "stealth" HF antenna. Not more "easy" DX from a tall
vertical anymore. :-( I am moving into an apartment, so I cannot put my
dipole or vertical up there. I am thinking of an HF mobile style antenna,
such as the High Sierra El Dorado, or the High-Q. Will need some wire
radials, but those can be easily dropped off the edges of the balcony.

Anyway, have fun and I hope that this winter sees better propagation. I
can't wait for the sunspot cycle to go back on the upswing again.

73 de Jackie

[kh2d@my-deja.com]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:31:42 GMT, "Jackie" >
wrote:

>using my friend's Yaesu HF rig.......
>and a Cubex Quad antenna w/rotator mounted up high on the roof....... Things
>were no better with the Gap vertical.

Go figure :-)

73, Jim KH2D

[kh2d@my-deja.com]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:31:42 GMT, "Jackie" >
wrote:

>using my friend's Yaesu HF rig.......
>and a Cubex Quad antenna w/rotator mounted up high on the roof....... Things
>were no better with the Gap vertical.

Go figure :-)

73, Jim KH2D

[Jackie]

> wrote in message
...

I wish I was moving to a place where I could have a loop. Seems so easy and
yet, they work great.

> I've never worked 5W--still on my "makes me drool!" list. :-)

I was lucky that night-- I wasn't even aware they were on the air-- and I
was just tuning around on 17 meters (one of my fave bands) and came across
them. I wasn't sure where 5W was, so when I looked 'em up, bang! I leapt
into the pile-up and put out my call a few times, and they came back to me
with a 5/5 report. I worked T2YL on 17 meters as well. I really like that
band. It's not as crowded as 20. I made a dipole just for 17 meters. I wish
I didn't have to take it down, but someday I'll put 'er back up again, when
I get my own house.

> There have been lots of articles in the magazines about
> stealth antennas; you might find some in the ARRL's website,
> or by buying a stack of back QSTs at a hamfest. There are
> *lots* of possibilities, if you don't mind experimenting!

There are sure lots of 'em... seems like everyone I've talked to who's ever
had to use a 'stealth' antenna has their own theories about what works best.
I guess any antenna is better than none. I have considered some indoor
antennas, but really want to get one outside. I do have a balcony and should
be able to at least put a portable HF antenna on it.

> Have you read W9KNI's book, _The Complete DXer_?
> There's a new edition (3rd) out and it's FULL of exceedingly
> helpful (IMO) thoughts, advice, tips.

Have not read it yet, but I plan on ordering it soon. I see it's in print
again now. Friends have told me, if you're a DXer, get this book... so I
will!

73,

Jackie

[Jackie]

> wrote in message
...

I wish I was moving to a place where I could have a loop. Seems so easy and
yet, they work great.

> I've never worked 5W--still on my "makes me drool!" list. :-)

I was lucky that night-- I wasn't even aware they were on the air-- and I
was just tuning around on 17 meters (one of my fave bands) and came across
them. I wasn't sure where 5W was, so when I looked 'em up, bang! I leapt
into the pile-up and put out my call a few times, and they came back to me
with a 5/5 report. I worked T2YL on 17 meters as well. I really like that
band. It's not as crowded as 20. I made a dipole just for 17 meters. I wish
I didn't have to take it down, but someday I'll put 'er back up again, when
I get my own house.

> There have been lots of articles in the magazines about
> stealth antennas; you might find some in the ARRL's website,
> or by buying a stack of back QSTs at a hamfest. There are
> *lots* of possibilities, if you don't mind experimenting!

There are sure lots of 'em... seems like everyone I've talked to who's ever
had to use a 'stealth' antenna has their own theories about what works best.
I guess any antenna is better than none. I have considered some indoor
antennas, but really want to get one outside. I do have a balcony and should
be able to at least put a portable HF antenna on it.

> Have you read W9KNI's book, _The Complete DXer_?
> There's a new edition (3rd) out and it's FULL of exceedingly
> helpful (IMO) thoughts, advice, tips.

Have not read it yet, but I plan on ordering it soon. I see it's in print
again now. Friends have told me, if you're a DXer, get this book... so I
will!

73,

Jackie

[Jackie]

"Old DXer" <Old > wrote in message
news:%xVRa.2990$ff.693@fed1read01...
> Lots of stealth antenna ideas at URL:
> http://ac6v.com/antprojects.htm#STANT

Paydirt! I love the AC6V site, but there is SO much information on it, and
I'm such a new ham, that I have not even gotten to that section yet.

I would venture to say that AC6V has one of the most complete ham sites on
the Internet, from what I've come across so far...

73 to OldDXer and all,

Jackie

[Jackie]

"Old DXer" <Old > wrote in message
news:%xVRa.2990$ff.693@fed1read01...
> Lots of stealth antenna ideas at URL:
> http://ac6v.com/antprojects.htm#STANT

Paydirt! I love the AC6V site, but there is SO much information on it, and
I'm such a new ham, that I have not even gotten to that section yet.

I would venture to say that AC6V has one of the most complete ham sites on
the Internet, from what I've come across so far...

73 to OldDXer and all,

Jackie

[Old DXer]

The Complete DXer ia s great DX book as is ON4UN's Low Band DXing.

Also a new DX Book on the market -- look at DX101x -- in HRO and other
stores.

See outline et al at URL: http://ac6v.com/DXSAMPLE.htm

"Jackie" > wrote in message
news:CkZRa.79279$OZ2.14269@rwcrnsc54...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> > Have you read W9KNI's book, _The Complete DXer_?
> > There's a new edition (3rd) out and it's FULL of exceedingly
> > helpful (IMO) thoughts, advice, tips.
>
> Have not read it yet, but I plan on ordering it soon. I see it's in print
> again now. Friends have told me, if you're a DXer, get this book... so I
> will!
>
> 73,
>
> Jackie
>
>

[Old DXer]

The Complete DXer ia s great DX book as is ON4UN's Low Band DXing.

Also a new DX Book on the market -- look at DX101x -- in HRO and other
stores.

See outline et al at URL: http://ac6v.com/DXSAMPLE.htm

"Jackie" > wrote in message
news:CkZRa.79279$OZ2.14269@rwcrnsc54...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> > Have you read W9KNI's book, _The Complete DXer_?
> > There's a new edition (3rd) out and it's FULL of exceedingly
> > helpful (IMO) thoughts, advice, tips.
>
> Have not read it yet, but I plan on ordering it soon. I see it's in print
> again now. Friends have told me, if you're a DXer, get this book... so I
> will!
>
> 73,
>
> Jackie
>
>

[Jackie]

> So you keep on saying (three times at the last count).

Sorry... my ISP burped this morning. I only hit the "send" button once, but
the message was held up in a queue until it finally posted later on--
thrice.

> However, it would be much more informative to your readers if you
> would have indicated your callsign, or at least say where you are
> located. All that South Pacific stuff would be very nice DX if you
> are located in Central Europe, but not much of a challenge if you are
> in Southern California or New Zealand.

I understand, but I will not post my callsign on Usenet, because there are
creeps lurking on Usenet groups who can look up my address and other
pertinent information on various callsign databases. I would perhaps not be
as concerned if I weren't female.

So, as far as location goes, I live in the north-central part of the United
States, very close to the Canadian border. About as close to the geographic
center of North America as one can get... pretty far from any oceans!

Jackie

[Jackie]

> So you keep on saying (three times at the last count).

Sorry... my ISP burped this morning. I only hit the "send" button once, but
the message was held up in a queue until it finally posted later on--
thrice.

> However, it would be much more informative to your readers if you
> would have indicated your callsign, or at least say where you are
> located. All that South Pacific stuff would be very nice DX if you
> are located in Central Europe, but not much of a challenge if you are
> in Southern California or New Zealand.

I understand, but I will not post my callsign on Usenet, because there are
creeps lurking on Usenet groups who can look up my address and other
pertinent information on various callsign databases. I would perhaps not be
as concerned if I weren't female.

So, as far as location goes, I live in the north-central part of the United
States, very close to the Canadian border. About as close to the geographic
center of North America as one can get... pretty far from any oceans!

Jackie

[54-46 was my number]

Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:28:43 -0400, --Bill-- >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Bingo...and don't forget sunrise times on 40. I whacked off a string of
>>KH6 and JA on 40 during the contest with my HW-16 and dipole.
>
>
> Where from?????
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>

KP4.
-Bill

[54-46 was my number]

Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:28:43 -0400, --Bill-- >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Bingo...and don't forget sunrise times on 40. I whacked off a string of
>>KH6 and JA on 40 during the contest with my HW-16 and dipole.
>
>
> Where from?????
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>

KP4.
-Bill

[helmsman]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:00:11 GMT, "Jackie" >
wrote:
>I understand, but I will not post my callsign on Usenet, because there are
>creeps lurking on Usenet groups who can look up my address and other
>pertinent information on various callsign databases. I would perhaps not be
>as concerned if I weren't female.

Fear not, Colt is the great equalizer! Be a big girl and use your
rights. Get a CCW permit.

>
>So, as far as location goes, I live in the north-central part of the United
>States, very close to the Canadian border. About as close to the geographic
>center of North America as one can get... pretty far from any oceans!
>
>Jackie
>

The next time take a book out of the library the
feds will know what you are reading.
http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Our_Association/Offices/Intellectual_Freedom3/Intellectual_Freedom_Issues/USA_Patriot_Act.htm

[helmsman]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:00:11 GMT, "Jackie" >
wrote:
>I understand, but I will not post my callsign on Usenet, because there are
>creeps lurking on Usenet groups who can look up my address and other
>pertinent information on various callsign databases. I would perhaps not be
>as concerned if I weren't female.

Fear not, Colt is the great equalizer! Be a big girl and use your
rights. Get a CCW permit.

>
>So, as far as location goes, I live in the north-central part of the United
>States, very close to the Canadian border. About as close to the geographic
>center of North America as one can get... pretty far from any oceans!
>
>Jackie
>

The next time take a book out of the library the
feds will know what you are reading.
http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Our_Association/Offices/Intellectual_Freedom3/Intellectual_Freedom_Issues/USA_Patriot_Act.htm

[Jim Reisert]

Check out this list:

http://www.yccc.org/Links/books.htm

73 - Jim AD1C

[Jim Reisert]

Check out this list:

http://www.yccc.org/Links/books.htm

73 - Jim AD1C

[Old DXer]

Jackie is correct. Whether male or female, posting your name, callsign, and
e-mail address is an invitation to real harassment by the nuts.

In addition to harassment. they can sign you up for undesirable mail, chat
rooms, singles, porno, etc that you never want to receive. Even phone calls
from the nuts once they track you down. Has happened to several decent
posters I know of -- including this old DXer.

One Ham here had a face to face confrontation with a wacko that stalked him.
Sad fact of the times.

Being anon does not detract from the credibility of ones posts. So what if
you give your name and callsign -- you can be as wrong as any anon poster.

Back to the subject, yes DX is getting tougher with the conditions at
present, but going lower in frequency, improving antennas, and above all
persistence will still net some interesting DX.
-----------------------

"Jackie" > wrote in message
news:%u2Sa.81027$OZ2.14363@rwcrnsc54...
> > So you keep on saying (three times at the last count).
>
> Sorry... my ISP burped this morning. I only hit the "send" button once,
but
> the message was held up in a queue until it finally posted later on--
> thrice.
>
> > However, it would be much more informative to your readers if you
> > would have indicated your callsign, or at least say where you are
> > located. All that South Pacific stuff would be very nice DX if you
> > are located in Central Europe, but not much of a challenge if you are
> > in Southern California or New Zealand.
>
> I understand, but I will not post my callsign on Usenet, because there are
> creeps lurking on Usenet groups who can look up my address and other
> pertinent information on various callsign databases. I would perhaps not
be
> as concerned if I weren't female.
>
> So, as far as location goes, I live in the north-central part of the
United
> States, very close to the Canadian border. About as close to the
geographic
> center of North America as one can get... pretty far from any oceans!
>
> Jackie
>
>

[Old DXer]

Jackie is correct. Whether male or female, posting your name, callsign, and
e-mail address is an invitation to real harassment by the nuts.

In addition to harassment. they can sign you up for undesirable mail, chat
rooms, singles, porno, etc that you never want to receive. Even phone calls
from the nuts once they track you down. Has happened to several decent
posters I know of -- including this old DXer.

One Ham here had a face to face confrontation with a wacko that stalked him.
Sad fact of the times.

Being anon does not detract from the credibility of ones posts. So what if
you give your name and callsign -- you can be as wrong as any anon poster.

Back to the subject, yes DX is getting tougher with the conditions at
present, but going lower in frequency, improving antennas, and above all
persistence will still net some interesting DX.
-----------------------

"Jackie" > wrote in message
news:%u2Sa.81027$OZ2.14363@rwcrnsc54...
> > So you keep on saying (three times at the last count).
>
> Sorry... my ISP burped this morning. I only hit the "send" button once,
but
> the message was held up in a queue until it finally posted later on--
> thrice.
>
> > However, it would be much more informative to your readers if you
> > would have indicated your callsign, or at least say where you are
> > located. All that South Pacific stuff would be very nice DX if you
> > are located in Central Europe, but not much of a challenge if you are
> > in Southern California or New Zealand.
>
> I understand, but I will not post my callsign on Usenet, because there are
> creeps lurking on Usenet groups who can look up my address and other
> pertinent information on various callsign databases. I would perhaps not
be
> as concerned if I weren't female.
>
> So, as far as location goes, I live in the north-central part of the
United
> States, very close to the Canadian border. About as close to the
geographic
> center of North America as one can get... pretty far from any oceans!
>
> Jackie
>
>

[Old DXer]

Excellent list Jim -- found a couple I haven't read. Thanks

73
Old But Still Dxing

"Jim Reisert" > wrote in message
...
> Check out this list:
>
> http://www.yccc.org/Links/books.htm
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C

[Old DXer]

Excellent list Jim -- found a couple I haven't read. Thanks

73
Old But Still Dxing

"Jim Reisert" > wrote in message
...
> Check out this list:
>
> http://www.yccc.org/Links/books.htm
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C

[Jackie]

"helmsman" > wrote in message
...

> Fear not, Colt is the great equalizer! Be a big girl and use your rights.
Get a CCW permit.

Nah, thanks. As far as self-protection goes, I took many years of martial
arts training, and am not afraid to go where and when I want to (within
reason, of course).

The state I live in just passed a conceal and carry law. Now, many people
are pushing for its repeal, and most businesses have effectively banned
anyone from carrying weapons on premises anyway... all they have to do is
put up a big sign (in certain typeface, and which conforms to a particular
size in square inches) that says "Guns are banned in these premises", and no
one with guns can enter. After the C&C law was passed, many businesses
quickly rushed to have the signs printed up and displayed prominently by
their points of entrance.

After he took an early retirement from ironworking due to a back injury, my
dad became a gunsmith. As kids, my younger brother and I understood that
any guns which were in the house were not to be touched or even breathed
near, and they were always locked away in safes. Both of us had to take
firearm safety training as teenagers, but I never got interested in hunting
or sport shooting.

Jackie

[Jackie]

"helmsman" > wrote in message
...

> Fear not, Colt is the great equalizer! Be a big girl and use your rights.
Get a CCW permit.

Nah, thanks. As far as self-protection goes, I took many years of martial
arts training, and am not afraid to go where and when I want to (within
reason, of course).

The state I live in just passed a conceal and carry law. Now, many people
are pushing for its repeal, and most businesses have effectively banned
anyone from carrying weapons on premises anyway... all they have to do is
put up a big sign (in certain typeface, and which conforms to a particular
size in square inches) that says "Guns are banned in these premises", and no
one with guns can enter. After the C&C law was passed, many businesses
quickly rushed to have the signs printed up and displayed prominently by
their points of entrance.

After he took an early retirement from ironworking due to a back injury, my
dad became a gunsmith. As kids, my younger brother and I understood that
any guns which were in the house were not to be touched or even breathed
near, and they were always locked away in safes. Both of us had to take
firearm safety training as teenagers, but I never got interested in hunting
or sport shooting.

Jackie

[Jackie]

"Old DXer" <Old > wrote in message
news:o%bSa.3342$ff.2160@fed1read01...

> In addition to harassment. they can sign you up for undesirable mail, chat
> rooms, singles, porno, etc that you never want to receive.

I really hate to have to remain anonymous, but spammers have utterly taken
control of the inboxes of many people, and I only get an average of one or
two spam-mails per day. Lately, most of them have been from the 419 scammers
in Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire and Togo... I just pass 'em on to the 419
investigation section of the U.S. Treasury, though I'm not sure how much
good that's doing to keep the frauds at bay.

This is off-topic, but if you want to have a really good laugh, find out how
one savvy fellow with a great sense of humor (and, apparently, a lot of time
his hands) gets even with spammers... you'll bust a gut reading some of his
replies to spammers, especially his ongoing dialogues with some doofus
Nigerian frauds who weren't able to tell that he was stringing them along...
LOL!

www.thespamletters.com

Jackie
Way up nort', dere, not too durned far from da tundra.

[Jackie]

"Old DXer" <Old > wrote in message
news:o%bSa.3342$ff.2160@fed1read01...

> In addition to harassment. they can sign you up for undesirable mail, chat
> rooms, singles, porno, etc that you never want to receive.

I really hate to have to remain anonymous, but spammers have utterly taken
control of the inboxes of many people, and I only get an average of one or
two spam-mails per day. Lately, most of them have been from the 419 scammers
in Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire and Togo... I just pass 'em on to the 419
investigation section of the U.S. Treasury, though I'm not sure how much
good that's doing to keep the frauds at bay.

This is off-topic, but if you want to have a really good laugh, find out how
one savvy fellow with a great sense of humor (and, apparently, a lot of time
his hands) gets even with spammers... you'll bust a gut reading some of his
replies to spammers, especially his ongoing dialogues with some doofus
Nigerian frauds who weren't able to tell that he was stringing them along...
LOL!

www.thespamletters.com

Jackie
Way up nort', dere, not too durned far from da tundra.

[helmsman]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:08:41 GMT, "Jackie" >
wrote:

>"helmsman" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Fear not, Colt is the great equalizer! Be a big girl and use your rights.
>Get a CCW permit.
>
>Nah, thanks. As far as self-protection goes, I took many years of martial
>arts training, and am not afraid to go where and when I want to (within
>reason, of course).
>
>The state I live in just passed a conceal and carry law. Now, many people
>are pushing for its repeal, and most businesses have effectively banned
>anyone from carrying weapons on premises anyway... all they have to do is
>put up a big sign (in certain typeface, and which conforms to a particular
>size in square inches) that says "Guns are banned in these premises", and no
>one with guns can enter. After the C&C law was passed, many businesses
>quickly rushed to have the signs printed up and displayed prominently by
>their points of entrance.

You and your opinion I respect.
BUT!
Those stores should be forced to have even larger signs stating
THEY ARE ANTI AMERICAN.
Have a good day :')
......end......................................... .............................................

>
>After he took an early retirement from ironworking due to a back injury, my
>dad became a gunsmith. As kids, my younger brother and I understood that
>any guns which were in the house were not to be touched or even breathed
>near, and they were always locked away in safes. Both of us had to take
>firearm safety training as teenagers, but I never got interested in hunting
>or sport shooting.
>
>Jackie
>

..
Boycott anything made in France and vacation somewhere else.

[helmsman]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:08:41 GMT, "Jackie" >
wrote:

>"helmsman" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Fear not, Colt is the great equalizer! Be a big girl and use your rights.
>Get a CCW permit.
>
>Nah, thanks. As far as self-protection goes, I took many years of martial
>arts training, and am not afraid to go where and when I want to (within
>reason, of course).
>
>The state I live in just passed a conceal and carry law. Now, many people
>are pushing for its repeal, and most businesses have effectively banned
>anyone from carrying weapons on premises anyway... all they have to do is
>put up a big sign (in certain typeface, and which conforms to a particular
>size in square inches) that says "Guns are banned in these premises", and no
>one with guns can enter. After the C&C law was passed, many businesses
>quickly rushed to have the signs printed up and displayed prominently by
>their points of entrance.

You and your opinion I respect.
BUT!
Those stores should be forced to have even larger signs stating
THEY ARE ANTI AMERICAN.
Have a good day :')
......end......................................... .............................................

>
>After he took an early retirement from ironworking due to a back injury, my
>dad became a gunsmith. As kids, my younger brother and I understood that
>any guns which were in the house were not to be touched or even breathed
>near, and they were always locked away in safes. Both of us had to take
>firearm safety training as teenagers, but I never got interested in hunting
>or sport shooting.
>
>Jackie
>

..
Boycott anything made in France and vacation somewhere else.

[Bill Henderson]

> .
> Boycott anything made in France and vacation somewhere else.

Never mind France. USA have fairly buggered up my chances of getting P5.

Bill

G|M0VIT

[Bill Henderson]

> .
> Boycott anything made in France and vacation somewhere else.

Never mind France. USA have fairly buggered up my chances of getting P5.

Bill

G|M0VIT

[unkadean]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:31:10 +0100, "Bill Henderson"
> wrote:

>
>> .
>> Boycott anything made in France and vacation somewhere else.
>
>Never mind France. USA have fairly buggered up my chances of getting P5.
>
>Bill
>
>G|M0VIT
>

Yea, working P5 is a lot more ****ing important than a nuke in Los
Angeles.

[unkadean]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:31:10 +0100, "Bill Henderson"
> wrote:

>
>> .
>> Boycott anything made in France and vacation somewhere else.
>
>Never mind France. USA have fairly buggered up my chances of getting P5.
>
>Bill
>
>G|M0VIT
>

Yea, working P5 is a lot more ****ing important than a nuke in Los
Angeles.

[Bill Henderson]

>
> Yea, working P5 is a lot more ****ing important than a nuke in Los
> Angeles.
>
I think that I need a little help with this one.

Would you like to put a little more meat on your comment. Remember that I am
living in Britain and we have had a fair bit of terrorist activity here over
the last 3 or 4 hundred years. I think that you are a wee bit new to this!

Bill

[Bill Henderson]

>
> Yea, working P5 is a lot more ****ing important than a nuke in Los
> Angeles.
>
I think that I need a little help with this one.

Would you like to put a little more meat on your comment. Remember that I am
living in Britain and we have had a fair bit of terrorist activity here over
the last 3 or 4 hundred years. I think that you are a wee bit new to this!

Bill

[Peter Lemken]

Old DXer <Old > wrote:
> Jackie is correct. Whether male or female, posting your name, callsign, and
> e-mail address is an invitation to real harassment by the nuts.

BS

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin
--
> Fact is that asians have nothing useful to contribute to the internet.

Have you *seen* some of that hentai?
-- as seen on slashdot.org , July 21st, 2003

[Peter Lemken]

Old DXer <Old > wrote:
> Jackie is correct. Whether male or female, posting your name, callsign, and
> e-mail address is an invitation to real harassment by the nuts.

BS

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin
--
> Fact is that asians have nothing useful to contribute to the internet.

Have you *seen* some of that hentai?
-- as seen on slashdot.org , July 21st, 2003

[Peter Lemken]

Jackie > wrote:
>
> "Old DXer" <Old > wrote in message
> news:o%bSa.3342$ff.2160@fed1read01...
>
> > In addition to harassment. they can sign you up for undesirable mail, chat
> > rooms, singles, porno, etc that you never want to receive.
>
> I really hate to have to remain anonymous,

Isn't that illegal in Minnesota?

Peter Lemken
Berlin
--
> Fact is that asians have nothing useful to contribute to the internet.

Have you *seen* some of that hentai?
-- as seen on slashdot.org , July 21st, 2003

[Peter Lemken]

Jackie > wrote:
>
> "Old DXer" <Old > wrote in message
> news:o%bSa.3342$ff.2160@fed1read01...
>
> > In addition to harassment. they can sign you up for undesirable mail, chat
> > rooms, singles, porno, etc that you never want to receive.
>
> I really hate to have to remain anonymous,

Isn't that illegal in Minnesota?

Peter Lemken
Berlin
--
> Fact is that asians have nothing useful to contribute to the internet.

Have you *seen* some of that hentai?
-- as seen on slashdot.org , July 21st, 2003

[Elmer E Ing]

Yeah -- well I know of cases where folks were stalked, others received
threatening phone calls, etc.

One YL here received dozens of obscene phone calls after her number was
posted on the web. Had to change her phone number.

Oh yeah you can take legal recourse if you wish and want to spend the time,
money, and agony --- "forget it" as they say in New York and remain ANON on
a wide open forum, say I.


Beware

Maybe not in Berlin but happens here in USA.
Sad but true.

ANON out of necessity -- as I have been attacked by the nuts big time (long
story)
Elmer in Nevada


"Peter Lemken" > wrote in message
...
> Old DXer <Old > wrote:
> > Jackie is correct. Whether male or female, posting your name, callsign,
and
> > e-mail address is an invitation to real harassment by the nuts.
>
> BS
>
> Peter Lemken
> DF5JT
> Berlin

[Elmer E Ing]

Yeah -- well I know of cases where folks were stalked, others received
threatening phone calls, etc.

One YL here received dozens of obscene phone calls after her number was
posted on the web. Had to change her phone number.

Oh yeah you can take legal recourse if you wish and want to spend the time,
money, and agony --- "forget it" as they say in New York and remain ANON on
a wide open forum, say I.


Beware

Maybe not in Berlin but happens here in USA.
Sad but true.

ANON out of necessity -- as I have been attacked by the nuts big time (long
story)
Elmer in Nevada


"Peter Lemken" > wrote in message
...
> Old DXer <Old > wrote:
> > Jackie is correct. Whether male or female, posting your name, callsign,
and
> > e-mail address is an invitation to real harassment by the nuts.
>
> BS
>
> Peter Lemken
> DF5JT
> Berlin