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]]> Scanner Hamkey http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=148096 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=148058&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:24:25 GMT What do you do when you're travelling in a caravan and operating
completely legally under your immediate relative's GMRS CB license and
a cop pulls you over and demands to see YOUR radio license and then
when you can't show or give it to him , he fines and tivkets you and
arrests you and confiscates all your legal radio equipment because

"you're operating radio illegally since you don't have a radio license
and if you do have one, you're operating illegally since you're not
carrying it with you".

The courts in Officer Bubba's county, Officer Billy Bob's county, and
Officer Deputy Dawg's county will NOT rule in your favor.

I didn't mention Barney Fife because I think even Barney Fife would
hve more smarts than that.

I've seen several people here and on the net say the officer has the
right to demand it and the right and even DUTY to arrest you if you're
not carrying your radio license with you even if you are licensed.

And that it's your own fault if you don't have the license with you to
prove it.

Again, the FCC does NOT issue a physical paper copy to all the
immediate relatives of a GMRS licensee.

Although the relatives are covered under the GMRS licensee.

But you can't call your relative for help to being his license becaue
he's now out of range since the cop stopped you and cell phones don't
work because there aren't ant cell phone towers in the very rural tri
county area of Officers Bubba, Billy Bob, and Deputy Dawg.



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]]> Scanner http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=148009 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147949&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:40:50 GMT i fuond a scanner at a garage sale it is a icom r5. im new to this but found a couple of local signals. between the transmissions there is this annoying screeching noise its not interference because it suonds like man made tones. maybe they do that to stop people from listening i dunno. is there... i fuond a scanner at a garage sale it is a icom r5. im new to this but
found a couple of local
signals. between the transmissions there is this annoying screeching
noise its not
interference because it suonds like man made tones. maybe they do that
to stop people from
listening i dunno. is there any way around these annoying tones

]]> Scanner http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147949 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147921&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:45:11 GMT CB radio and ham radio has recently been outlawed in Ontario, Canada as part of the cell phone ban while ddriving. No, this is not another case of vagurly or broadly worded law. This was deliberate. And if it can happen in Canada, which it did, it can also happen in the U.S Notice the CB and ham... CB radio and ham radio has recently been outlawed in Ontario, Canada
as part of the cell phone ban while ddriving. No, this is not another
case of vagurly or broadly worded law. This was deliberate. And if it
can happen in Canada, which it did, it can also happen in the U.S

Notice the CB and ham radio excuse of using microphones being safer
doesn't hold any water with the government lawmakers: And I've seen
the same similar description elsewhere of lawmakers in the U.S. saying
two way radios are even more dangerous than cell phones because of all
the buttons and dials and cord on the microphone which has to be hand
held.

Where do they get this stuff?

CBs and ham radios have been being used mobile since at least the 60's
and in the 50 years since then, I've never heard of any accidents
caused by people talking on the radio in tthe U.S., even when the CB
craze was at it's height with more people on CBs than are now on cell
phones.

At first glance, I thought this also outlawed frs/gmrs. At second
glance, it looks like they will still allow frs.gmrs. At third glance,
I can't tell if they're permitting frs/gmrs or outlawing it.

"According to the Ontario Trucking Association, the government plans
to phase out CBs and similar UHF/VHF radios over the next three years"

"Officials insist CBs present a particular challenge since the
receiver and communications unit are separate from each other and
connected by a cord"


"TORONTO — It’s enough to make CW McCall switch to singing the blues.

Ontario’s ban on hand-held cell phones, texting and other
communication devices while driving kicks in on October 26, and
surprisingly, the government has included truckers’ Citizen Band
Radios (CBs) and similar types of two-way radios in the ban.

According to the Ontario Trucking Association, the government plans to
phase out CBs and similar UHF/VHF radios over the next three years,
assuming that two-way, hands-free technologies are developed within
that time. The OTA says that the Ministry could extend that timeframe
should no suitable technology be readily available to replace CBs.

Officials insist CBs present a particular challenge since the receiver
and communications unit are separate from each other and connected by
a cord.

The pending Ontario ban on CB radios appears to be the only one of its
kind in North America.

The law, which passed earlier this year, officially takes effect on
October 26, where the focus will be on educating drivers. Police will
start issuing tickets on February 1, 2010 for non-compliance.

The set fine for talking without hands-free setting or Bluetooth while
driving has yet to be determined before that date. However, the fine
range permissible for this offense is between $60 and $500.
Reportedly, demerit points will not be handed out for violations.

There are some accommodations for the commercial sector, however,
including permanent exemptions for satellite, navigation, collision
avoidance and other fleet management systems for the viewing of
logistical information on a display as long as the vehicle is not in
motion and the device is not held in hand.

The same goes for hand-held push-to-talk devices, hand mics and walkie-
talkies, which are popular in short-haul and vocational applications
especially.

Just as the law applies to standard cell phones, push-to-talk devices
can only be used while driving if they are mounted or secured to the
vehicle and is easily accessible and activated by one press of a
button. It cannot be hanging from the roof of the cab or dashboard.

OTA played a big part in winning some exemptions. Before the finishing
touches were made to the law, MTO officials were taken to trucking
companies to witness the need of such technology in daily operations.

The OTA supported the intent and the principle of the law. It says the
final version “is directionally appropriate.”

“We support the hand-held cell-phone ban and believe that the Ministry
has made reasonable accommodation for most of the other hand-held
devices used by industry that serve an important business purpose.”

However, Bradley concedes that the three-year phase-out of hand-held
CBs is likely to draw the attention of many truck drivers.

“Given the still pervasive use of these devices in the industry, I
expect there could be push-back from some truck drivers,” he said. “In
many respects the CB is not only an important part of the truckers’
social network, but it is also an important safety device in its own
right.”



http://www.myettnews.com/2009/10/ove...des-cb-radios/





]]> Scanner radioguy http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147921 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147885&goto=newpost Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:38:20 GMT wrote: > It's been proven that talking on a two way radio helps keep you more > awake and more alert on the road than not *using one at all.. > > Just ask the *truckers who use CB. Getting a BJ while driving always kept me awake.]]> On Oct 26, 3:52*pm, radioguy > wrote:
> It's been proven that talking on a two way radio helps keep you more
> awake and more alert on the road than not *using one at all..
>
> Just ask the *truckers who use CB.

Getting a BJ while driving always kept me awake.
]]> Scanner Douche BAG http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147885 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147884&goto=newpost Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:37:06 GMT wrote: > MFJ is introducing two scanners MFJ-8310 $99.95 & MFJ-8322 triple trunking > scanner 199.95 . Built by GRE . MFJ makes JUNK. Low quality crap.]]> On Oct 31, 3:25*pm, "jack smith" > wrote:
> MFJ is introducing two scanners MFJ-8310 $99.95 & MFJ-8322 triple trunking
> scanner 199.95 . Built by GRE .

MFJ makes JUNK. Low quality crap.
]]> Scanner Douche BAG http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147884 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147591&goto=newpost Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:31:04 GMT need 159.150---154.100---154.355---155.775 all 10.7 need 159.150---154.100---154.355---155.775
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]]> Scanner dlsloan@webtv.net http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147591 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147529&goto=newpost Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:05:28 GMT emcom wackers wrote:

"Neighborhood coordinators should be equipped with General Mobile
Radio
Service (GMRS) radios when possible. As indicated, these radios can
communicate on the first 7 channels of FRS radio, plus 8 additional
frequencies. These radios have a farther effective range (typically
reliable to 2 miles in urban areas, and farther using repeater
systems). Use of these should be limited so as not to cause undue
frequency congestion."

"Since the ham operator is already involved in emergency message
relaying, he/she is most likely monitoring several other radios/
frequencies, and will potentially be receiving messages from multiple
neighborhood coordinators via the GMRS/FRS link"

nice, so you're using gmrs radios at higher power levels than frs
radios including gmrs repeaters.

I hate to tell you emcom wackers and other wackers out there this (no,
not really. ha!), but you're STILL illegal.

The FCC has already ruled you're a business.

The FCC has also alreasy ruled that business use is NOT allowed on
GMRS unless you're a grandfathered organization.

At least, business use by organizations isn't allowed.

No, this wasn't a recent ruling. This ruling has been in effect for
years.

Since you yourselves stated in the above paragraphs that you either
intend to or are using higher power GMRS, then whether you have a GMRS
license or not, you ARE illegal bubble pack pirates.

And if you're not using the bubble packs, you're STILL illegal,
period.

Dome wackers , the police type claim they do it to uphold the law
because the law must always be upheld against people breaking it
because the people breaking it must either be fined or put in jail.

Well, wackers, if you're so for upholding the law and d hate everyone
who breaks it, why are you than continually breaking it yourselves?

Well?



]]> Scanner radioguy http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147529 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147487&goto=newpost Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:47:02 GMT I applaud the FCC's recent statement and reaffirmation of the rules
and what the amateur radio service was created for.

And I was especially glad to see so many true hams stand up against
the people trying to usurp the frequencies.

Until then, I was beginning to think I joined ham radio for the wrong
reasons.

My earlier posting automatically lumped those folks in with the true
ham radio operators because everywhere I turned, all I was hearing is
that's the main purpose of amateur radio.

Well, not according to the FCC. And not according to U.S. law.

Since the wackers are so interested and much more knowledgable in and
about amateur radio, it's history, and the law, then they must know
for sure where the laws they want changed originate and how to easily
change it. LOL.

As proof wacker emcom hams are bad for ham radio, I've seen a site
made by a ham who is obviously one of the emcom hams although I don't
know or remember if he's actually a whacker or not.

His website was about "proper ham radio etiquette".

According to him, proper ham radio etiquette on the ham bands,
including the repeaters and simplex frequencies is to never ever use
ham radio terms or ham radio jargon on the ham radio bands because no
one else understands what those words mean, and therefore breaks the
FCC rule requiring plain English must be used,

but that it's okay and even preffered to use CB terms and CB jargon on
the ham radio bands because everyone understands what those words and
terms mean and therefore doesn't violate the FCC rules requiring plain
Englisg be used.

Yes, you read that correctly. He claimed proper ham radio etiquette on
the ham radio bands is to never ever use ham radio jargon on the ham
radio bands at all, but that it's okay and even preffered to use CB
jargon on the ham radio bands!!!

Wow! I guess all those true hams claiming ham radio is currently
becoming like and turning into CB were correct after all.

At first, I didn't think it was. Until I read that.

I would give the url, but I put it on disc somewhere, and deleted it
from my computer and don't remember where it's at. Yeah, I know that
will make the whackers here post there's no such whacker site. Well, I
don't care what you beleve, "and that's the pfffttttt truth."

He was definitely the typical emcom type, though. Said all ham
repeaters and frequencies should be kept as free as possible from
anyone communicating on them because they might someday be needed by
emergency personnel and that if you must talk on any ham repeater or
any ham frequency, the total conversation time between both parties
should not last more than two minutes.

And preferrably should not even be that long.

(That's one minute per person, or less if you do it the preferred
way) .

(preferred by whom? Why obviously prefered by employee emcom workers
who don't want anyone else talking on the bands so they can say the
bands are empty of other activities and should be turned over to emcom
employees.

Of course he and they don't usually admit that part. That's one of the
reasons they keep kicking true hams off the ham frequencies whether
simplex or repeaters.)

(There's also other reasons such as power trips, etcetera)

Also, he said that you should never ever make any outgoing calls on
IRLP or Echolink because when you do, there might be someone trying to
get in on Echolink or IRLP who can't because you are blocking them
from doing so by having dialed out and connecting to and using another
repeater.

Wow! Well, imo, if everyone followed his rules and never made any
outgoing calls on IRLP or Echolink, (which some particular hams
obviously want), there wouldn't be any incoming calls anyway since
they would be outgoing calls to the person making them. And since
there isn't any incoming calls anyway, then why not dial out and use
the Echolink and IRLP to connect to other repeaters?

On second thought, even if he's not the type of person who
impersonates policemen and fireman and ems workers or goes out to the
scenes,in my opinion, he's still a whacker.

Ham radio terms and jargon improper etiquette on ham radio
frequencies?

CB radio terms and jargon preferred and proper etiquette on ham radio
frequencies?

Outgoing calls on any IRLP/Echolink repeater or link anywhere should
never ever be made anywhere anytime because there might be an incoming
IRLP/Echolink call on that IRLP/Echolink repeater (which happens to be
a prohibited outgoing call to the person making it, if you follow his
rules. He wasn't talking about his repeaters but all ham repeaters).

At least, that's the best I can remember it to the best of my memory,
anyway.

IMO Yep, a true wacko/wacker alright.










]]> Scanner radioguy http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147487 http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=147486&goto=newpost Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:45:13 GMT X-No-Archive: Yes

applaud the FCC's recent statement and reaffirmation of the rules and
what the amateur radio service was created for.

And I was especially glad to see so many true hams stand up against
the people trying to usurp the frequencies.

Until then, I was beginning to think I joined ham radio for the wrong
reasons.

My earlier posting automatically lumped those folks in with the true
ham radio operators because everywhere I turned, all I was hearing is
that's the main purpose of amateur radio.

Well, not according to the FCC. And not according to U.S. law.

Since the wackers are so interested and much more knowledgable in and
about amateur radio, it's history, and the law, then they must know
for sure where the laws they want changed originate and how to easily
change it. LOL.

As proof wacker emcom hams are bad for ham radio, I've seen a site
made by a ham who is obviously one of the emcom hams although I don't
know or remember if he's actually a whacker or not.

His website was about "proper ham radio etiquette".

According to him, proper ham radio etiquette on the ham bands,
including the repeaters and simplex frequencies is to never ever use
ham radio terms or ham radio jargon on the ham radio bands because no
one else understands what those words mean, and therefore breaks the
FCC rule requiring plain English must be used,

but that it's okay and even preffered to use CB terms and CB jargon on
the ham radio bands because everyone understands what those words and
terms mean and therefore doesn't violate the FCC rules requiring plain
Englisg be used.

Yes, you read that correctly. He claimed proper ham radio etiquette on
the ham radio bands is to never ever use ham radio jargon on the ham
radio bands at all, but that it's okay and even preffered to use CB
jargon on the ham radio bands!!!

Wow! I guess all those true hams claiming ham radio is currently
becoming like and turning into CB were correct after all.

At first, I didn't think it was. Until I read that.

I would give the url, but I put it on disc somewhere, and deleted it
from my computer and don't remember where it's at. Yeah, I know that
will make the whackers here post there's no such whacker site. Well, I
don't care what you beleve, "and that's the pfffttttt truth."

He was definitely the typical emcom type, though. Said all ham
repeaters and frequencies should be kept as free as possible from
anyone communicating on them because they might someday be needed by
emergency personnel and that if you must talk on any ham repeater or
any ham frequency, the total conversation time between both parties
should not last more than two minutes.

And preferrably should not even be that long.

(That's one minute per person, or less if you do it the preferred
way) .

(preferred by whom? Why obviously prefered by employee emcom workers
who don't want anyone else talking on the bands so they can say the
bands are empty of other activities and should be turned over to emcom
employees.

Of course he and they don't usually admit that part. That's one of the
reasons they keep kicking true hams off the ham frequencies whether
simplex or repeaters.)

(There's also other reasons such as power trips, etcetera)

Also, he said that you should never ever make any outgoing calls on
IRLP or Echolink because when you do, there might be someone trying to
get in on Echolink or IRLP who can't because you are blocking them
from doing so by having dialed out and connecting to and using another
repeater.

Wow! Well, imo, if everyone followed his rules and never made any
outgoing calls on IRLP or Echolink, (which some particular hams
obviously want), there wouldn't be any incoming calls anyway since
they would be outgoing calls to the person making them. And since
there isn't any incoming calls anyway, then why not dial out and use
the Echolink and IRLP to connect to other repeaters?

On second thought, even if he's not the type of person who
impersonates policemen and fireman and ems workers or goes out to the
scenes,in my opinion, he's still a whacker.

Ham radio terms and jargon improper etiquette on ham radio
frequencies?

CB radio terms and jargon preferred and proper etiquette on ham radio
frequencies?

Outgoing calls on any IRLP/Echolink repeater or link anywhere should
never ever be made anywhere anytime because there might be an incoming
IRLP/Echolink call on that IRLP/Echolink repeater (which happens to be
a prohibited outgoing call to the person making it, if you follow his
rules. He wasn't talking about his repeaters but all ham repeaters).

At least, that's the best I can remember it to the best of my memory,
anyway.

IMO Yep, a true wacko/wacker alright.










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