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Old October 1st 04, 02:29 PM
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Where's Chuck Harder?

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Robert Gross wrote:

Where's Chuck Harder?


Where is he supposed to be?

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Old October 1st 04, 02:39 PM
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He used to be on SW 5 days a week.

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Robert Gross wrote:

Where's Chuck Harder?


Where is he supposed to be?

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Robert Gross wrote:

He used to be on SW 5 days a week.


OK, but where? Can't really help you out if I don't know where he was supposed
to be.

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Old October 2nd 04, 04:01 PM
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And Chuck could do "unhinged" in front of the mike like no
other.


Don't you listen to shortwave radio?

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I don't get it, and I've listened to Chuck for 13 years!


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Why?

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Old October 3rd 04, 03:14 AM
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Why?

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Because I yearn for the day when Pat Choate, or Cliff Kincaid, or Paul
Gonzales, or Phil Paleologos, comes on and says, "Ladies and
gentlemen, I have something very sad and tragic to tell you about
Chuck Harder -- " ...
Pretty sick, huh?
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Why?

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Because I yearn for the day when Pat Choate, or Cliff Kincaid, or Paul
Gonzales, or Phil Paleologos, comes on and says, "Ladies and
gentlemen, I have something very sad and tragic to tell you about
Chuck Harder -- " ...
Pretty sick, huh?


The announcement may be a while in coming, and it's cheerful effects may not
last very long. Have you considered listening to the shortwave Prophets?
Any day in which there is no nuclear war or a planet crashing into the Earth
or a global plague is a good one. It certainly puts a bounce into my step!

Frank Dresser


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The announcement may be a while in coming, and it's cheerful effects may not
last very long. Have you considered listening to the shortwave Prophets?
Any day in which there is no nuclear war or a planet crashing into the Earth
or a global plague is a good one. It certainly puts a bounce into my step!

Frank Dresser


I get from your posts here that you do not consider Chuck Harder a
raving lunatic. Unfortunately, the record says otherwise.
It was Chuck who claimed that the U.S. government was planning to
intern "patriots" back in the mid-1990's ("Operation Garden Plot");
It was Chuck who, back in early 1995, had a caller on claiming that a
7-mile-wide asteriod was headed for Earth;
It was Chuck who, over and over again for 13+ years, predicted the
collapse of America, followed by riots, arson, anarchy, and what not.
Dude, get the wax out of your ears and LISTEN! That's the problem with
all you Chuck Harder supporters. You've been hypnotized by his
mellifluous, mellow voice, and you simply don't pay attention to what
he actually says on the radio. He's just as bad - worse, in my opinion
- than all those "shortwave Prophets" you cite. You "Chuckies" go gaga
over this bloke, for reasons I can't fathom, and you think he's the
greatest thing since sliced bread. Try telling that to the poor folks
who worked for Chuck in the 1990's - or people like me, who wrote
uncomplimentary things about him and received threats from him in
response.
Try telling that to the hundreds of radion stations who'd had enough
of Chuck, and dropped him after listeners complained longly and
loudly.
Sorry to be so blunt; I'm not blaming you. You may have the best
reasons in the world for supporting Chuck, and you look to him for
support and solutions to your problems. No problem there. The problem
is, you don't allow for the possibility that Chuck may be way over the
top, and that folks like me who point this out may - just may - be
correct.
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Frank Dresser wrote:

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I get from your posts here that you do not consider Chuck Harder a
raving lunatic.



Certainly not. By the standards set by shortwave radio broadcasters, Chuck
Harder is a sensible moderate.


Perhaps some members of some governments are raving lunatics. Let me
tell you a story Chuck Harder told years ago.

He had a large warehouse, in Florida, I believe.

It met all codes to the extent that it was "grandfathered in" when the
laws came into effect. Therefore, he didn't NEED to install any extra
doors in his warehouse; but decided it would be a good thing to do. Just
in case there was ever a fire the employees would have two more ways out
of the place.

So, he installed two extra, NOT REQUIRED, doors in his large warehouse.
.. . . BUT he forgot (or just failed) to install a lighted "exit" sign
over those doors. OSHA came by and fined him FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
($14,000.00) for not having exit lights over those two doors which were
not required in the first place!

I still own one of his "PRN 1000" radios built by Drake. It is still
used fairly regularly.

Al
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I've got you there...if a 7-mile-wide asteroid hit Earth, certainly 90
percent of the world's population would perish. Ask any scientist
who's studied the so-called "Crater of Doom" that wiped out the
dinosaurs 65 million years ago. And that's not the fevered (but
brilliant) imagination of Steven Spielberg...that is the collective
conclusion of hundreds of geologists, astronomers, historians, climate
specialists, paleontologists (sp?), and so on, and so forth.



No doubt. An impact from a 7 mile wide asteroid would be very bad news.


I suspect that the "Planet X" you are referring to is indeed an
asteroid (but it just may indeed be a planet - see below).


Planet X is supposedly an Earth sized planet, if I recall correctly. To be
fair to the SW prophets though, Planet X wasn't supposed to actually impact
with Earth, just fly by and spin the poles around enough to make the world
largely inhabitable. The flyby vs. impact distinction isn't one the SW
broadcasters often make.

What is the
boundary between an asteroid and a planet anyway? Asteriods have
gravity, they have moons, and the larger ones have atmospheres. All
characteristics of planets. Remember, the word "asteroid" comes from
the Greek expression for "star-like" because these relatively small
heavenly bodies looked like pinpoints of light compared to the planets
in our Solar System.
Back to Chuck: Before Y2K, he told his audience about a
science-fiction book written in the 1950's called "The Big Red Eye."
This horror tome was about a 4,000-mile-wide planet that had been torn
from its solar system near the center of our galaxy and had travelled
billions of light-years since almost the beginning of the universe
(the "big bang"). Somehow, by an incredibly bad streak of luck, the
planet surfed and coasted on the gravitational pull of various stars,
supernovae, planets, and various and sundry space junk, to land smack
dab in the middle of OUR solar system - and on a collision course with
Earth.


Yes! I suspect all such fantasies were rooted in Percival Lowell's search
for what he called Planet X, before WW2. He was looking for slight
perturbations in the orbits of other planets. No doubt some imaginative
people said "What if something's coming our way?"


At first, of course, the planet (which, like Mars, is red in
appearance) looks like a faint red star. Then it gradually gets
brighter, and eventually it appears as a small red disk visible at
night - the "Big Red Eye" - and by then Earth is racked with mile-high
tidal waves that wipe out New York, Washington, Israel, the west coast
of Africa, and Australia. Of course, there is a complete breakdown of
society and the global economy, and mankind reverts back to the early
Bronze Age.


That's the Planet X Prophesy!

And that's as far as Chuck Harder got with the book. Mind you, I
haven't read it (I'd love to), yet I find Chuck's lurid description at
once repelling and compelling. Remember, Chuck Harder was comparing
"The Big Red Eye" to the Y2K fiasco. That proves that he is NO
MODERATE. He, like the "shortwave prophets" you eloquently describe,
is a lunatic-fringe, end-of-the-world, Armageddonist, survivalist
KOOK!


In comparison to the other SW hosts, Chuck Harder is a moderate
lunatic-fringe, end-of-the-world, Armageddonist, survivalist KOOK. He's
hardly in the big league of false scary predictions with Brother Stair, Alex
Jones, James Lloyd, Texe Marrs or any of a dozen SWers. Chuck Harder's
scary stories are too infrequent, and carry too little impact for him to run
with the big dogs. Chuck Harder is a single shot .22 in a world of .50
caliber machine guns.



That is my opinion. Sorry you don't like it, but life's a bitch - and
then you marry one!


Wait 'till you find out the penalty for bigamy!

Frank Dresser



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