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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message link.net... The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive. Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station. Dan/W4NTI OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas? Right now and under the new power level proposal, BPL must meet Part 15. This means that it legally cannot cause interference to any authorized or licensed radio service and must accept interference from any authorized or licensed radio service. Therefore any problems in BPL must be resolved on the BPL side under current regulations. It would require changes in both Part 15 and Part 97 to restrict operations around BPL areas. Plus don't forget the non-ham spectrum users. The FCC will have a heck of a time telling commercial AM radio, FM radio, and over-the-air TV broadcasters to shut down. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message .com... Right now and under the new power level proposal, BPL must meet Part 15. This means that it legally cannot cause interference to any authorized or licensed radio service and must accept interference from any authorized or licensed radio service. Therefore any problems in BPL must be resolved on the BPL side under current regulations. It would require changes in both Part 15 and Part 97 to restrict operations around BPL areas. Yes, that's the question. If a currently legal amatuer radio operator could shut down high speed internet access for a given area, is there any reason the FCC couldn't change it's current regulations, and put in new restrictions on amateur radio? Plus don't forget the non-ham spectrum users. The FCC will have a heck of a time telling commercial AM radio, FM radio, and over-the-air TV broadcasters to shut down. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I'm sure the FCC wouldn't restrict any of that. The TV networks, radio networks and all the people who watch and listen won't let them. Frank Dresser |
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message .com... Right now and under the new power level proposal, BPL must meet Part 15. This means that it legally cannot cause interference to any authorized or licensed radio service and must accept interference from any authorized or licensed radio service. Therefore any problems in BPL must be resolved on the BPL side under current regulations. It would require changes in both Part 15 and Part 97 to restrict operations around BPL areas. Yes, that's the question. If a currently legal amatuer radio operator could shut down high speed internet access for a given area, is there any reason the FCC couldn't change it's current regulations, and put in new restrictions on amateur radio? Plus don't forget the non-ham spectrum users. The FCC will have a heck of a time telling commercial AM radio, FM radio, and over-the-air TV broadcasters to shut down. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I'm sure the FCC wouldn't restrict any of that. The TV networks, radio networks and all the people who watch and listen won't let them. Frank Dresser |
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message .com... Well interference caused by hams will be small potatoes compared to the power that some of the commercial broadcasters are allowed to use. That will compromise BPL over a much larger area than any ham station ever could. If BPL ever comes to my area, I'm within a few hundred yards of some of these broadcasters so the BPL users will never even notice my signal since they'll be constantly torn up by the commercial stuff. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I expect the BPLers would trap the broadcast frequencies. If the interference from established broadcasters is still too high, they simply won't offer service in that neighborhood. But I don't think RF is the biggest problem for BPL. Overhead power lines will only intercept a small percentage of the RF, and re-radiate at least half of that. I think noise sources plugged directly into the power line are going to cause far more problems. Frank Dresser |
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message .com... Well interference caused by hams will be small potatoes compared to the power that some of the commercial broadcasters are allowed to use. That will compromise BPL over a much larger area than any ham station ever could. If BPL ever comes to my area, I'm within a few hundred yards of some of these broadcasters so the BPL users will never even notice my signal since they'll be constantly torn up by the commercial stuff. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I expect the BPLers would trap the broadcast frequencies. If the interference from established broadcasters is still too high, they simply won't offer service in that neighborhood. But I don't think RF is the biggest problem for BPL. Overhead power lines will only intercept a small percentage of the RF, and re-radiate at least half of that. I think noise sources plugged directly into the power line are going to cause far more problems. Frank Dresser |
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message .com... Well interference caused by hams will be small potatoes compared to the power that some of the commercial broadcasters are allowed to use. That will compromise BPL over a much larger area than any ham station ever could. If BPL ever comes to my area, I'm within a few hundred yards of some of these broadcasters so the BPL users will never even notice my signal since they'll be constantly torn up by the commercial stuff. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I expect the BPLers would trap the broadcast frequencies. If the interference from established broadcasters is still too high, they simply won't offer service in that neighborhood. But I don't think RF is the biggest problem for BPL. Overhead power lines will only intercept a small percentage of the RF, and re-radiate at least half of that. I think noise sources plugged directly into the power line are going to cause far more problems. Frank Dresser Could very well be. If one of the neighbors has welding equipment, that can really put a lot of noise onto an electrical line. It takes a lot of filtering to keep that out of your radio and no doubt would do a good job of interfering with the Internet signal. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message .com... Well interference caused by hams will be small potatoes compared to the power that some of the commercial broadcasters are allowed to use. That will compromise BPL over a much larger area than any ham station ever could. If BPL ever comes to my area, I'm within a few hundred yards of some of these broadcasters so the BPL users will never even notice my signal since they'll be constantly torn up by the commercial stuff. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I expect the BPLers would trap the broadcast frequencies. If the interference from established broadcasters is still too high, they simply won't offer service in that neighborhood. But I don't think RF is the biggest problem for BPL. Overhead power lines will only intercept a small percentage of the RF, and re-radiate at least half of that. I think noise sources plugged directly into the power line are going to cause far more problems. Frank Dresser Could very well be. If one of the neighbors has welding equipment, that can really put a lot of noise onto an electrical line. It takes a lot of filtering to keep that out of your radio and no doubt would do a good job of interfering with the Internet signal. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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Capt. Carl would you please make BPL go away like you did the real Hams.
Thank you. 10-73's! |
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Capt. Carl would you please make BPL go away like you did the real Hams.
Thank you. 10-73's! |
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