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Old August 8th 03, 10:33 AM
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Jim Hampton wrote:
Brian,

A 24 MB file and well worth the download time. Good grief, I can't believe
the FCC doesn't understand what this is going to do to HF communications.


It is easy to believe when you realize that the FCC is now run
by a bunch of lawyers who are completely dysfunctional when it
comes to radio communications. They wouldn't know a transmitter
from a door knob.

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Old August 8th 03, 09:58 PM
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Brian,

A 24 MB file and well worth the download time. Good grief, I can't believe
the FCC doesn't understand what this is going to do to HF communications.

Thanks and 73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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Check out the ARRL site for the BPL video.

Brian

http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../08/08/2/?nc=1



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Old August 9th 03, 04:00 AM
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:58:01 GMT, "Jim Hampton" wrote:

A 24 MB file and well worth the download time. Good grief, I can't believe
the FCC doesn't understand what this is going to do to HF communications.


Ham Radio and SWL is old technology and BPL will benefit millions of consumers
that want broadband Internet access. It is not fair to stop new technology
because 100,000 people that are active ham radio operators want to hang on to
old 1844 technology called morse code.
If ham radio had millions of active HF operators then it could be argued that
their bands should be protected in some fashion. But 100,000 vs 130 Million
households shows that the smaller group should lose their HF privileges for
better technology. Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet.

--
The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more.
http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/
...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an
irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's
minds. --Samuel Adams
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Old August 9th 03, 07:40 PM
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"Keith" wrote in message
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Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet.

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Great....lets give it a try then.....

CQ CQ CQ INTERNET THIS IS KEITHGOOF
COMEON............................................ ..........................
....................................

Damn no replies.....What did I do wrong Keithgoof?

Dan/W4NTI


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Old August 9th 03, 10:55 PM
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Keith,

As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity stereo
am broadcast (you were aware of that, right? This is new technology), you
be sure and let the group know. Also, if there is a big solar flare and
satellites are temporarily effected, I hope you aren't aboard a sinking ship
that depends upon HF (not amateur radio) as a backup. You are aware the
ships do use hf, right? I didn't say Morse code, I said HF. Amateur radio
only occupies a small portion of HF. I know that the average cber thinks
that no one uses HF, but 130 million households should have priority over a
sinking ship? Ignorance is curable, stupid isn't. Which are you suffering
from?


Jim AA2QA

"Keith" wrote in message
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..

Ham Radio and SWL is old technology and BPL will benefit millions of

consumers
that want broadband Internet access. It is not fair to stop new technology
because 100,000 people that are active ham radio operators want to hang on

to
old 1844 technology called morse code.
If ham radio had millions of active HF operators then it could be argued

that
their bands should be protected in some fashion. But 100,000 vs 130

Million
households shows that the smaller group should lose their HF privileges

for
better technology. Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet.

--
The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more.
http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/
..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an
irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's
minds. --Samuel Adams



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Old August 10th 03, 01:06 AM
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"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message
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Jim Hampton wrote:

Dan,

You'd best check. When 911 hit, I lost AT&T internet for over a week!


First thing I noticed late that day was the slowdown in my dialup,
which I figured was some unrelated local glitch. But it never did seem
to speed up on netwide ccnnects, though I get 42 to 44kbs connects.
Makes me wonder what got damaged and where, to cause that.


Your brain, and it's called imagination.

Kim W5TIT


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Old August 10th 03, 12:22 PM
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ...
Keith,

As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity stereo
am broadcast


What will it do to lo-fidelity AM?

This must be the Dem's answer to silencing Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck,
Mike Reagan, Ollie North, Neal Bortz, Gordon Liddy, Mike Savage, Sean
Hannity...
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Old August 10th 03, 02:42 PM
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Brian,

I did make a minor mistake. BPL is cut off at 1.8 MHz, thus avoiding the
deep pocket broadcasters. I'm still not sure how well the cheap Chinese
radios will work with BPL being fed right into the power lines.

Then there are HF aeronautical frequencies. I forgot there are HF radio
astronomy listening posts. I wonder how well folks will hear WWV at any HF
frequency. SWLs will love BPL; forget hearing a lot of foreign
broadcasters. This thing is looking very ugly, indeed. BTW, don't blame
the Democrats; it is usually the big-money backed Republicans that will sell
their own mother to make money for someone who lined their pockets. I
noticed that in Japan, they blame the liberal Democrats for running huge
deficits and keeping interest rates at near zero. Sounds like what our
Republicans are doing, doesn't it? Frankly, I don't trust Republicans or
Democrats; both have to serve special interest groups before the common
good.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



"Brian" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message

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Keith,

As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity

stereo
am broadcast


What will it do to lo-fidelity AM?

This must be the Dem's answer to silencing Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck,
Mike Reagan, Ollie North, Neal Bortz, Gordon Liddy, Mike Savage, Sean
Hannity...



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Old August 10th 03, 02:56 PM
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A couple of other questions for you Keith.
BPL uses frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz.

Question #1: Does 27 MHz CB fall between 1.8 and 80 MHz?

Question #2: Do HF radio astronomy posts use frequencies between 1.8 and 80
MHz?

Question #3: Does WWV use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz?

Question #4: Do HF aeronautical frequencies lie between 1.8 and 80 MHz?

Question #5: Do HF foreign broadcasters use frequencies between 1.8 and 80
MHz?

Question #6: Will SWLs be impacted by the answer to question #5?

Question #7: I see you provide a link to short wave. Just what do you
think short wave is? (BIG hint: HF; 3 to 30 MHz, just what is being
impacted).

Question #8: I see you provide a link to scanners. You are aware that many
scanners go down to 30 MHz or so (some lower) and even VHF frequencies to 80
MHz are affected.

Question #9: What are the frequencies occupied by the lowest channels of
television in the United States? (Hint, channel two runs between 54 MHz and
60 MHz). Do these frequencies lie between 1.8 and 80 MHz?


Now think about those questions for a while.

These are just simple starter questions; it gets worse the deeper you dig.
Now go back to your room and shut the padded door


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



"Keith" wrote in message
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Ham Radio and SWL is old technology and BPL will benefit millions of

consumers
that want broadband Internet access. It is not fair to stop new technology
because 100,000 people that are active ham radio operators want to hang on

to
old 1844 technology called morse code.
If ham radio had millions of active HF operators then it could be argued

that
their bands should be protected in some fashion. But 100,000 vs 130

Million
households shows that the smaller group should lose their HF privileges

for
better technology. Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet.

--
The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more.
http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/
..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an
irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's
minds. --Samuel Adams






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Old August 10th 03, 03:45 PM
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Frankly, I don't trust Republicans or
Democrats; both have to serve special interest groups before the common
good.


*GASP* There *are* still people out there who can reason and think!! Thank
goodness!



Jim Hampton for President!
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