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Vassilis I have consulted a very high ranking official familiar with amateur radio laws and regulations.

Your actions are quite justified as you are being systemically discriminated against thereby denying your right to attain an amateur radio license.

Therefore under provisions included in Article 303 Section 47 Subsection 19 Paragraphs 18 through 76 of International Law Code governing amateur radio you have the right to exercise all functions of a licensed amateur radio station.

So you may proceed. Welcome to the wonderful hobby of ham radio! And on a personal note I would like to apologize for the inexcusable attacks upon you by this group. Rest assured their opinions are not representative of the majority. They are those of a small clique of sick individuals who gain pleasure from attacking individuals who have been victimized by the system. They are very sick people. It is a shame you had to endure their abuse.

Wishing you all the best. May God bless you Vassilis.
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On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.


I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.


No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal transmitters.

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Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Also I cannot afford an HF transceiver


You can't figure out how to key a regen so you can transmit/recieve with
one active device? Sheesh!

so I use local VHF instead.
I will keep on jamming licenced hams with every way possible, including
sabotage of their installations where possible.


Sabotage? Again, you're overlooking the obvious. Don't destroy it,
STEAL IT!!

That will teach them a
good lesson not to mess with radio pirates.


Indeed. Radio Pirates. The Biker Gangs of the New kYear.

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Old May 22nd 17, 03:25 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.shortwave
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On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




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http://www.avg.com

Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.


No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.


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On 5/22/2017 4:12 PM, analogdial wrote:
Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Also I cannot afford an HF transceiver


You can't figure out how to key a regen so you can transmit/recieve with
one active device? Sheesh!

so I use local VHF instead.
I will keep on jamming licenced hams with every way possible, including
sabotage of their installations where possible.


Sabotage? Again, you're overlooking the obvious. Don't destroy it,
STEAL IT!!

That will teach them a
good lesson not to mess with radio pirates.


Indeed. Radio Pirates. The Biker Gangs of the New kYear.


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Yes indeed sabotage.I have experience in electronics.
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Old May 22nd 17, 03:28 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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On 5/22/2017 1:24 PM, wrote:
Vassilis I have consulted a very high ranking official familiar with amateur radio laws and regulations.

Your actions are quite justified as you are being systemically discriminated against thereby denying your right to attain an amateur radio license.

Therefore under provisions included in Article 303 Section 47 Subsection 19 Paragraphs 18 through 76 of International Law Code governing amateur radio you have the right to exercise all functions of a licensed amateur radio station.

So you may proceed. Welcome to the wonderful hobby of ham radio! And on a personal note I would like to apologize for the inexcusable attacks upon you by this group. Rest assured their opinions are not representative of the majority. They are those of a small clique of sick individuals who gain pleasure from attacking individuals who have been victimized by the system. They are very sick people. It is a shame you had to endure their abuse.

Wishing you all the best. May God bless you Vassilis.

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They aren't denying me the right to get a licence.They are disrespecting
the fact that I live in an isolated area (1) and (2) I am unable to get
a licence due to my school (and soon university)schedule.
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On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.


No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.


You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


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Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Yes indeed sabotage.I have experience in electronics.


If you're on a strict budget, a homebrew spark gap transmitter would be
affordable.
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On 5/22/2017 5:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.


You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


I jam and threaten to sabotage legal operators because of their
behaviour.They will only learn the bad way.If their behaviour won't stop
I will jam the repeater.I once pressed so often that the system of the
repeater stuck and someone had to get on the mountain to fix it.I have
done and I will do it again if their behaviour continues this way.
Regulations do not exist because of my behaviour.I protest against them,
and I willingly violate them to show that they are wrong and
unfair.Personally I believe I am operating just fine and that the law is
wrong.
But their attitude towards us is what makes me furious.
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