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Old September 26th 03, 07:08 AM
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I posted something similar to this in a different newsgroup, but I wonder if
based on the logic that the interference could also affect other services
such as emergency services, aircraft frequencies, and even military
frequency allocations, it would seem to me to be important to persuade those
groups to pressure the FCC against the whole BPL thing.....



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This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many
subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments
against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data
over power lines, which will destroy the HF radio
spectrum), the FCC seems disposed to encourage
it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. T
the noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly.


I guess you never heard that money talks and bull**** walks eh?

Did you *REALLY THINK* that a couple hundred
aging HF operating tightwad ham radio operators
are going to stop an emerging technology that will
conceivably network home appliances to the internet
and be worth $BILLIONS$ in potential revenue ??

Jeezehus-H-christ...get F-N real !!



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Sure we will. All we need to is put up KW level beacon stations.

End of BPL.

Dan/W4NTI



Why would that end BPL?

Frank Dresser



The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI


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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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Sure we will. All we need to is put up KW level beacon stations.

End of BPL.

Dan/W4NTI



Why would that end BPL?

Frank Dresser



The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI


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Frank Dresser wrote:

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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Sure we will. All we need to is put up KW level beacon stations.

End of BPL.

Dan/W4NTI




Why would that end BPL?

Frank Dresser




It would more likely end the legality of 1kw for hams.

Dick


It probably wont take a KW to trash BPL. Just needed to communicate on HF.

Dan/W4NTI


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Frank Dresser wrote:

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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Sure we will. All we need to is put up KW level beacon stations.

End of BPL.

Dan/W4NTI




Why would that end BPL?

Frank Dresser




It would more likely end the legality of 1kw for hams.

Dick


It probably wont take a KW to trash BPL. Just needed to communicate on HF.

Dan/W4NTI




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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:31:17 GMT,
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What have you done for Amateur Radio today?
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The question is what has the ARRL done to the future of Ham Radio
by hanging on to the Morse Code Requirement? It has killed it.


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You really are a dumbass ain't ya Kieth? Tell me, in you apparantly

drug
clouded brain. How BPL and CW have anything to do with each other?

Oh never mind. You ain't worth reading anylonger.

Dan/W4NTI


Keith,

Just ignore Dan. Everyone in his mind is a DUMBASS. the only one who
is perfect is HIM, PERIOD.


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Frank K3EKO


Gotta give ya credit Franky me boy....when your right, your right.

But I don't think everyone is a dumbass. Just the people I call
dumbass...like you and Keith.

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:

"Keith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:31:17 GMT,
opcom in wrote:


What have you done for Amateur Radio today?
--^^---------------------------------------------------------------

The question is what has the ARRL done to the future of Ham Radio
by hanging on to the Morse Code Requirement? It has killed it.


--
Best Regards, Keith http://kilowatt-radio.org/
==========================================
= http://slrn.org SLRN 0.9.8.0 is out.


=======================================


You really are a dumbass ain't ya Kieth? Tell me, in you apparantly

drug
clouded brain. How BPL and CW have anything to do with each other?

Oh never mind. You ain't worth reading anylonger.

Dan/W4NTI


Keith,

Just ignore Dan. Everyone in his mind is a DUMBASS. the only one who
is perfect is HIM, PERIOD.


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73

Frank K3EKO


Gotta give ya credit Franky me boy....when your right, your right.

But I don't think everyone is a dumbass. Just the people I call
dumbass...like you and Keith.

Dan/W4NTI


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The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI



OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?

Frank Dresser


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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI



OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?

Frank Dresser


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OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?



Hmmm. That would be real interesting. The FCC restricting the use of
lawfully licensed transmitters in order to accomodate Part15 unlicensed
operations of incidental radiators.....


Ed WB6SAT

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