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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 14 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2573 600

Indeterminate (note 1) 162 52

Value for Percentages 2411 548

Against NPRM (note 2) 727 [30.15%] 172 [31.39%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1317 [54.62%] 283 [51.64%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 367 [15.22%] 93 [16.97%]

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.



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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 17 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2582 609

Indeterminate (note 1) 162 52

Value for Percentages 2420 557

Against NPRM (note 2) 730 [30.17%] 175 [31.42%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1323 [54.67%] 289 [51.89%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 367 [15.16%] 93 [16.70%]

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.



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Old October 19th 05, 12:03 AM
 
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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 17 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2582 609

Indeterminate (note 1) 162 52

Value for Percentages 2420 557

Against NPRM (note 2) 730 [30.17%] 175 [31.42%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1323 [54.67%] 289 [51.89%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 367 [15.16%] 93 [16.70%]

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.



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Old October 19th 05, 12:50 AM
 
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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 17 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2595 622

Indeterminate (note 1) 165 55

Value for Percentages 2430 567

Against NPRM (note 2) 731 [30.08%] 176 [31.04%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1328 [54.65%] 294 [51.85%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 371 [15.27%] 97 [17.11%]

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.



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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 18 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2606 633

Indeterminate (note 1) 169 59

Value for Percentages 2437 574

Against NPRM (note 2) 735 [30.16%] 180 [31.36%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1330 [54.58%] 296 [51.57%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 372 [15.26%] 98 [17.07%]

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.





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Old October 20th 05, 07:45 PM
 
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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 19 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2612 639

Indeterminate (note 1) 170 60

Value for Percentages 2442 579

Against NPRM (note 2) 737 [30.18%] 182 [31.43%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1331 [54.50%] 297 [51.30%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 374 [15.32%] 100 [17.27%]

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.



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Old October 21st 05, 08:32 PM
 
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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:

As of 20 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2634 658

Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60

Value for Percentages 2463 598

Against NPRM (note 2) 746 [30.29%] 191 [31.94%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1339 [54.36%] 303 [51.67%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 378 [15.35%] 104 [17.39%]

This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 3 PM EDT 21 Oct 05.

Notes:

Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August
and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and
official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left
column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates
all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard.
It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here.
Fixed-font spacing used throughout.

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen
submission, and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.



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wrote:
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:


"Amateur Opinions"?

Does that mean only the opinions of licensed radio amateurs are
considered in the totals?

As of 20 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2634 658

Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60

Value for Percentages 2463 598

Against NPRM (note 2) 746 [30.29%] 191 [31.94%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1339 [54.36%] 303 [51.67%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 378 [15.35%] 104 [17.39%]

This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 3 PM EDT 21 Oct 05.

Notes:

It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider
Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005,


Why isn't that known? Does anyone think FCC would
put comments in their database, yet not consider them?

1. Includes duplicate postings


"Postings"? Aren't they called "comments"?

from same individual,


If an individual submits multiple but different comments, are they all
counted, or just one?

Are Reply Comments counted? If an individual submits both Comments and
Reply Comments, are they all counted, or just one?

"joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address,


How is an address determined to be valid?

or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM,


one foreign citizen
submission,


Citizenship is not a requirement for an FCC amateur radio license.
Neither is resident status. Yet all licensees are
subject to FCC regulations. Why shouldn't the comments of
prospective licensees be counted just because they're not
citizens?

and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio
regulations.


Such as?

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test.


Well, that's pretty clear.

NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."


Why? It's not a comment.

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.


There's only one other class that requires a code test.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.


The future of amateur radio is always being made - by those who are
part of it.

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Old October 22nd 05, 03:45 AM
 
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On 21 Oct 2005 19:09:53 -0700, wrote:

grow up

it is his count so he makes the rules he will use

you don't like make your own count and post the results

I doubt it will make much difference

wrote:
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:


"Amateur Opinions"?

Does that mean only the opinions of licensed radio amateurs are
considered in the totals?

As of 20 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2634 658

Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60

Value for Percentages 2463 598

Against NPRM (note 2) 746 [30.29%] 191 [31.94%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1339 [54.36%] 303 [51.67%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 378 [15.35%] 104 [17.39%]

This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 3 PM EDT 21 Oct 05.

Notes:

It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider
Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005,


Why isn't that known? Does anyone think FCC would
put comments in their database, yet not consider them?

1. Includes duplicate postings


"Postings"? Aren't they called "comments"?

from same individual,


If an individual submits multiple but different comments, are they all
counted, or just one?

Are Reply Comments counted? If an individual submits both Comments and
Reply Comments, are they all counted, or just one?

"joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address,


How is an address determined to be valid?

or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM,


one foreign citizen
submission,


Citizenship is not a requirement for an FCC amateur radio license.
Neither is resident status. Yet all licensees are
subject to FCC regulations. Why shouldn't the comments of
prospective licensees be counted just because they're not
citizens?

and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio
regulations.


Such as?

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test.


Well, that's pretty clear.

NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."


Why? It's not a comment.

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.


There's only one other class that requires a code test.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.


The future of amateur radio is always being made - by those who are
part of it.


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Old October 22nd 05, 04:02 AM
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grow up

either accept the number or do your own count
wrote:
wrote:
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:


"Amateur Opinions"?

Does that mean only the opinions of licensed radio amateurs are
considered in the totals?

As of 20 Oct 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1
Elimination/Retention tabulation:

ALL to Date Since FR Notice
-------------- ---------------
Grand Total 2634 658

Indeterminate (note 1) 171 60

Value for Percentages 2463 598

Against NPRM (note 2) 746 [30.29%] 191 [31.94%]
For NPRM (note 3) 1339 [54.36%] 303 [51.67%]
Test Extra Only (note 4) 378 [15.35%] 104 [17.39%]

This tabulation in agreement with FCC ECFS as of 3 PM EDT 21 Oct 05.

Notes:

It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider
Comments entered
prior to 31 August 2005,


Why isn't that known? Does anyone think FCC would
put comments in their database, yet not consider them?

1. Includes duplicate postings


"Postings"? Aren't they called "comments"?

from same individual,


If an individual submits multiple but different comments, are they all
counted, or just one?

Are Reply Comments counted? If an individual submits both Comments and
Reply Comments, are they all counted, or just one?

"joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address,


How is an address determined to be valid?

or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the
scope and purpose of the NPRM,


one foreign citizen
submission,


Citizenship is not a requirement for an FCC amateur radio license.
Neither is resident status. Yet all licensees are
subject to FCC regulations. Why shouldn't the comments of
prospective licensees be counted just because they're not
citizens?

and six who were commenting on another
matter having nothing to do with amateur radio
regulations.


Such as?

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test.


Well, that's pretty clear.

NPRM itself
(first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for."


Why? It's not a comment.

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.


There's only one other class that requires a code test.

Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates.

Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made,
like it or not.


The future of amateur radio is always being made - by those who are
part of it.


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