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Old May 7th 04, 12:15 AM
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I am thinking of putting up a yagi antenna. I am considering putting up
either the SteppIR 3 el yagi or the Force 12 XR5.

Does anyone have any opinions on which is the best antenna? Has anyone
tried both?

Rob
P.S. I live up north where there is lots of snow and ice during the winter.
Will the SteppIR antenna survive such weather?


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Old May 9th 04, 05:36 PM
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Dear Rob (unknown call; unknown location; no E-mail address):
Your questions are unanswerable.
What constitutes the "best" antenna depends on many factors. You
have only provided the information that you are "up north" and that you
wish an antenna to survive Winter weather.
It is unlikely that someone has "tried" both of the antennas you
mention. If they had gone to that expense it would be to write a
paper/book or because one of the antennas died.
Winter survival depends on a number of factors (including luck).
What is a reasonable design to place at 40 feet in an old, wooded
subdivision is likely to be outrageous at 200 feet in open country.
The ARRL has sold a book on the mechanical design of beams. It is a
good reference to study. The mechanical standard for towers and
antennas is 222F. It too should be consulted.
It will be a few more years before the survival characteristics of
the Step products starts to have statistical significance. I have heard
from riggers that the F12 products do not do well in severe wind/weather
conditions. (You may well not have such severe conditions.)
A search using Google, or the like, will turn up more information.
Be cautious of statements that contend that their antenna survived last
Winter's storm. The writer's location may have shielded the antenna.
I hope that this is of assistance.
Regards, Mac N8TT
--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA
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"Rob" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of putting up a yagi antenna. I am considering putting

up
either the SteppIR 3 el yagi or the Force 12 XR5.

Does anyone have any opinions on which is the best antenna? Has

anyone
tried both?

Rob
P.S. I live up north where there is lots of snow and ice during the

winter.
Will the SteppIR antenna survive such weather?



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Old May 11th 04, 02:37 AM
Rob
 
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J. McLaughlin wrote:
Dear Rob (unknown call; unknown location; no E-mail address):
Your questions are unanswerable.
What constitutes the "best" antenna depends on many factors. You
have only provided the information that you are "up north" and that
you wish an antenna to survive Winter weather.
It is unlikely that someone has "tried" both of the antennas you
mention. If they had gone to that expense it would be to write a
paper/book or because one of the antennas died.
Winter survival depends on a number of factors (including luck).
What is a reasonable design to place at 40 feet in an old, wooded
subdivision is likely to be outrageous at 200 feet in open country.
The ARRL has sold a book on the mechanical design of beams. It
is a good reference to study. The mechanical standard for towers and
antennas is 222F. It too should be consulted.
It will be a few more years before the survival characteristics of
the Step products starts to have statistical significance. I have
heard from riggers that the F12 products do not do well in severe
wind/weather conditions. (You may well not have such severe
conditions.) A search using Google, or the like, will turn up
more information.
Be cautious of statements that contend that their antenna survived
last Winter's storm. The writer's location may have shielded the
antenna. I hope that this is of assistance.
Regards, Mac N8TT

"Rob" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of putting up a yagi antenna. I am considering
putting up either the SteppIR 3 el yagi or the Force 12 XR5.

Does anyone have any opinions on which is the best antenna? Has
anyone tried both?

Rob
P.S. I live up north where there is lots of snow and ice during the
winter. Will the SteppIR antenna survive such weather?


Thanks for the reply. Well the most important factor for me is survival. I
live inside a National Park up in Canada where lots of snow, ice, wind, etc
occur during the long winter months. The antenna will be located up in the
clear. There will be not much around to shield it from the winds.

The SteppIR products looks interesting but they do not have much of a track
record. I used to use a Cushcraft R7000 but that only lasted 3 winters. I
am not that impressed with the strength of Cushcraft products.

Rob


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"Rob" wrote in message
.. .
J. McLaughlin wrote:
Dear Rob (unknown call; unknown location; no E-mail address):
Your questions are unanswerable.
What constitutes the "best" antenna depends on many factors. You
have only provided the information that you are "up north" and that
you wish an antenna to survive Winter weather.
It is unlikely that someone has "tried" both of the antennas you
mention. If they had gone to that expense it would be to write a
paper/book or because one of the antennas died.
Winter survival depends on a number of factors (including luck).
What is a reasonable design to place at 40 feet in an old, wooded
subdivision is likely to be outrageous at 200 feet in open country.
The ARRL has sold a book on the mechanical design of beams. It
is a good reference to study. The mechanical standard for towers and
antennas is 222F. It too should be consulted.
It will be a few more years before the survival characteristics of
the Step products starts to have statistical significance. I have
heard from riggers that the F12 products do not do well in severe
wind/weather conditions. (You may well not have such severe
conditions.) A search using Google, or the like, will turn up
more information.
Be cautious of statements that contend that their antenna survived
last Winter's storm. The writer's location may have shielded the
antenna. I hope that this is of assistance.
Regards, Mac N8TT

"Rob" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of putting up a yagi antenna. I am considering
putting up either the SteppIR 3 el yagi or the Force 12 XR5.

Does anyone have any opinions on which is the best antenna? Has
anyone tried both?

Rob
P.S. I live up north where there is lots of snow and ice during the
winter. Will the SteppIR antenna survive such weather?


Thanks for the reply. Well the most important factor for me is survival.

I
live inside a National Park up in Canada where lots of snow, ice, wind,

etc
occur during the long winter months. The antenna will be located up in

the
clear. There will be not much around to shield it from the winds.

The SteppIR products looks interesting but they do not have much of a

track
record. I used to use a Cushcraft R7000 but that only lasted 3 winters.

I
am not that impressed with the strength of Cushcraft products.

Rob



Hi Rob
My SteppIR antennas have survived winds that destroyed nearby trees FWIW.
I think the claimed wind survival ratings are realistic.
Ice does not change the antenna's electrical behavior;
The elements are inside a fiberglass tube.
The elements can be fully retracted.
If the fiberglass tube does fail it can be cheaply replaced.
I'm upgrading my 3 to a 4.
73
H.
NQ5H


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Old May 15th 04, 01:49 AM
Rob
 
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H. Adam Stevens wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
.. .
J. McLaughlin wrote:
Dear Rob (unknown call; unknown location; no E-mail address):
Your questions are unanswerable.
What constitutes the "best" antenna depends on many factors.
You have only provided the information that you are "up north" and
that you wish an antenna to survive Winter weather.
It is unlikely that someone has "tried" both of the antennas you
mention. If they had gone to that expense it would be to write a
paper/book or because one of the antennas died.
Winter survival depends on a number of factors (including luck).
What is a reasonable design to place at 40 feet in an old, wooded
subdivision is likely to be outrageous at 200 feet in open country.
The ARRL has sold a book on the mechanical design of beams. It
is a good reference to study. The mechanical standard for towers
and antennas is 222F. It too should be consulted.
It will be a few more years before the survival characteristics
of the Step products starts to have statistical significance. I
have heard from riggers that the F12 products do not do well in
severe wind/weather conditions. (You may well not have such severe
conditions.) A search using Google, or the like, will turn up
more information.
Be cautious of statements that contend that their antenna survived
last Winter's storm. The writer's location may have shielded the
antenna. I hope that this is of assistance.
Regards, Mac N8TT

"Rob" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of putting up a yagi antenna. I am considering
putting up either the SteppIR 3 el yagi or the Force 12 XR5.

Does anyone have any opinions on which is the best antenna? Has
anyone tried both?

Rob
P.S. I live up north where there is lots of snow and ice during
the winter. Will the SteppIR antenna survive such weather?


Thanks for the reply. Well the most important factor for me is
survival. I live inside a National Park up in Canada where lots of
snow, ice, wind, etc occur during the long winter months. The
antenna will be located up in the clear. There will be not much
around to shield it from the winds.

The SteppIR products looks interesting but they do not have much of
a track record. I used to use a Cushcraft R7000 but that only
lasted 3 winters. I am not that impressed with the strength of
Cushcraft products.

Rob



Hi Rob
My SteppIR antennas have survived winds that destroyed nearby trees
FWIW. I think the claimed wind survival ratings are realistic.
Ice does not change the antenna's electrical behavior;
The elements are inside a fiberglass tube.
The elements can be fully retracted.
If the fiberglass tube does fail it can be cheaply replaced.
I'm upgrading my 3 to a 4.
73
H.
NQ5H


Thanks for the info. The SteppIR antenna is definitely one to consider.

Did you find it hard to construct?

73's
Rob




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"Rob" wrote in message
...
H. Adam Stevens wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
.. .
J. McLaughlin wrote:
Dear Rob (unknown call; unknown location; no E-mail address):
Your questions are unanswerable.
What constitutes the "best" antenna depends on many factors.
You have only provided the information that you are "up north" and
that you wish an antenna to survive Winter weather.
It is unlikely that someone has "tried" both of the antennas you
mention. If they had gone to that expense it would be to write a
paper/book or because one of the antennas died.
Winter survival depends on a number of factors (including luck).
What is a reasonable design to place at 40 feet in an old, wooded
subdivision is likely to be outrageous at 200 feet in open country.
The ARRL has sold a book on the mechanical design of beams. It
is a good reference to study. The mechanical standard for towers
and antennas is 222F. It too should be consulted.
It will be a few more years before the survival characteristics
of the Step products starts to have statistical significance. I
have heard from riggers that the F12 products do not do well in
severe wind/weather conditions. (You may well not have such severe
conditions.) A search using Google, or the like, will turn up
more information.
Be cautious of statements that contend that their antenna survived
last Winter's storm. The writer's location may have shielded the
antenna. I hope that this is of assistance.
Regards, Mac N8TT

"Rob" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of putting up a yagi antenna. I am considering
putting up either the SteppIR 3 el yagi or the Force 12 XR5.

Does anyone have any opinions on which is the best antenna? Has
anyone tried both?

Rob
P.S. I live up north where there is lots of snow and ice during
the winter. Will the SteppIR antenna survive such weather?

Thanks for the reply. Well the most important factor for me is
survival. I live inside a National Park up in Canada where lots of
snow, ice, wind, etc occur during the long winter months. The
antenna will be located up in the clear. There will be not much
around to shield it from the winds.

The SteppIR products looks interesting but they do not have much of
a track record. I used to use a Cushcraft R7000 but that only
lasted 3 winters. I am not that impressed with the strength of
Cushcraft products.

Rob



Hi Rob
My SteppIR antennas have survived winds that destroyed nearby trees
FWIW. I think the claimed wind survival ratings are realistic.
Ice does not change the antenna's electrical behavior;
The elements are inside a fiberglass tube.
The elements can be fully retracted.
If the fiberglass tube does fail it can be cheaply replaced.
I'm upgrading my 3 to a 4.
73
H.
NQ5H


Thanks for the info. The SteppIR antenna is definitely one to consider.

Did you find it hard to construct?

73's
Rob


Straightforward and well built.
73
H.
NQ5H


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Old May 16th 04, 01:11 AM
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Check out Mosley antenna's. They been around along time and I have
TA-33 tribander up at 75 feet for 20 years. Bought it used and
estimate its 30 years old. QTH is southern New Jersey, not the most
severe WX but over the 20 years its seen some tough summer storms.
Check out there web site. I forget the address but you can find it
with a search.
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