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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


"This is usually a
large conductor attached to one side of the power supply (such as the
"ground plane" on a printed circuit board) ". From Wiki.


On many modern circuit boards there is no large conductor.

You are a babbling idiot.


Not me but the Autor of Wiki.
S*


The main problem is not in the articles, but in the strange way
you interpret them. The article about ground explains what is
wrong with your reasoning, but you still don't get it.
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On Apr 19, 11:15 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Electron waves travel.


No doubt, and please give an example of an electron wave.


"Waves in plasmas can be classified as electromagnetic or electrostatic
according to whether or not there is an oscillating magnetic field. Applying
Faraday's law of induction to plane waves, we find , implying that an
electrostatic wave must be purely longitudinal. An electromagnetic wave, in
contrast, must have a transverse component, but may also be partially
longitudinal." " A plasma is a quasineutral, electrically conductive fluid.
In the simplest case, it is composed of electrons and a single species of
positive ions," From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...classification

One more

time. It is impossible for electrons to travel at the speed of light.
But RF EM waves travel at the speed of light. Therefore, it is
impossible for RF waves to consist of electrons. Electrons act as a
bucket brigade for "buckets" of photons.

In the space is the rare plasma. There are the acoustic waves and the
electron waves.
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On Apr 19, 12:08 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
And what about the "displacement current?


If Maxwell had known about photons, he would never have invented

displacement current.

Displacement current = small restricted motions of charges in dielectricts
in altrnate electric field.
It be always true..


Assume we have an ideal transmission line terminated in an ideal

capacitor with two plates. It's easy to prove that the displacement
current flowing from one plate back up the transmission line, through
the source, back down the transmission line onto the other capacitor
plate has to be traveling much faster than the speed of light. Does
that give anyone pause to question the very existence of "displacement
current" in reality?

What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?
S*


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What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


Marconi did not have a microwave oven!
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On Apr 19, 9:56*pm, wrote:
A particle may have some wave properties but that does not make it a wave..


It makes it possess the wave-particle duality function. There is
nothing in physics to prohibit electron waves traveling at sub-light
speeds. But it is impossible for an electron wave to travel at the
speed of light. Yet we know that RF waves travel at the speed of
light. Therefore, RF waves cannot be made up of electrons. Here's two
of many web pages about electron waves:

http://www.rodenburg.org/theory/y100.html

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/debrog.html



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On Apr 20, 2:50*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


The Big Bang is the source of all energy in the universe.
Microwave photons are the immediate cause of heating in a microwave
oven. If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.
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On Apr 20, 2:50 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?


The Big Bang is the source of all energy in the universe.

Microwave photons are the immediate cause of heating in a microwave
oven.

Photons are the wave packets. It apply only to natural light and the damped
radio waves.

Todays radio waves are continuous.

If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in

front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in

front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*


No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.
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On Apr 19, 9:56 pm, wrote:
A particle may have some wave properties but that does not make it a
wave.


It makes it possess the wave-particle duality function.


"the wave-particle duality" is used only in textbooks.

There is

nothing in physics to prohibit electron waves traveling at sub-light
speeds.

Electron waves travel in the Dirac electron sea with the speed of light.
Like the sound waves in the air.

In space are ions and electrons (rare plasma).
Electron waves travel from the Sun about 8 minute and the acoustic (ion
waves) a few days.
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in

front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*


No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.


In vacuum is rare plasma (ions and electrons). Plasma is a conductor.
The electrons are free to move.
S*


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