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Old February 3rd 04, 01:31 AM
Art Unwin KB9MZ
 
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I can not believe what you are saying!

This thread is initiated by Wes not Yuri
I have not read anywhere that Wes, and Roy and Yuri supports your position
that Eznec can handle lumped loads in a real world situation. In fact I
seem to remember that Yuri in the past stated that computor programs
proffered by Tom who was using Eznec, did not reflect reality and was going
to prove same with a series of experiments in the near future. Not only that
Yuri has been off shore for most of this thread and has participated very
little, prior to that he was under the weather.
Now we come to the other person who you say supports you., Roy Roy has not
participated in this thread started by Wes so where is that statement that
his program Eznec
can handle all the requirements placed on it by lumped loads. After you
dissed him last week on another thread I can hardly believe he communicated
privately with you regarding his program?
Now we come to Wes...Wes is the originator of this thread which was a
debate based on his modelling submission
I do not recall him saying anything that supports your assertion. In fact
when I looked at what he proffered on this thread I seem to remember that it
reflected a radiating member of diameter equal to a real world coil into
which was inserted a point, lumped load that was dimensionaless.
I am sure he had good reason to do it that way but it certainly does not
reflect a real world situation that Yuri,
Cecil and I was looking for. Tho I must state firmly that
only Wes 'walked the walk' in an effort to resolve a problem and deserves
the thanks of all in trying to resolve it in one of many ways

So I do not believe what you are saying and you are playing around with the
word "truth"

So now you have exposed yourself again for what you are, unless you can
find in this thread or show that the associations with your statement
regarding Eznec is true per private conversation or otherwise.
I would be very curious if Roy supported your statement regarding Eznec and
lumped loads, as would many of those who purchased his program which
provided so many insights to antenna design. In fact I seem to remember a
very clear statement by Roy saying his programs had no variable abilities
which would be a requirement for real world analysis, however, I will leave
him to speak for himself as his knoweledge regarding antennas and modeling
is renown world wide.
I have also showed all the posts that you made on this thread
None of these provided facts , only opinions of yours that you have on other
people, sarcastic in the main.
Now I see that Cecil has brought up the subject directly with you and I urge
every body to read them to ascertain what facts you are offering in
return.or show how you avoid the issue as you have done many times in the
past.
My guess it will be the smear and run tactic that you off times use.
So Richard ,gather the supporters you have specifically quoted so they can
vouch for your assertions made with regard to Eznec and lumped loads to
prove you are not the liar that your posting appear to suggest.
Infact, if either Wes or Roy confirmes your "baloney" position statement I
will supply a public apology to you since both of them hold my respect with
regard to computor modeling. I still have vivid memories of where you argued
for ages regarding contact fidelity
where you pretty much said that contact pressure was everything and 'wipe'
was nothing which is just laughable in industry but not apparently in the
expert teaching of meterology in which you claim high education ..
Well this time all posters will see what you are unless you can show
otherwise.. You should never put people in a situation that they must accept
what you say without prior permission. You have forced a burden upon them.by
speaking for them knowing that they made no such statement.and have thus
caused embarasment to them.

Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG



"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On 1 Feb 2004 20:21:26 -0800, (Art Unwin KB9MZ)
wrote:

how Eznec can be manipulated
into tackling the problem of replacing a non dimensional
inductance to one that has physical dimensions
so that all pertinent questions can be answered


Art,

It is clear that you write far more than you read. I did this already
in a posting, in this thread:
This may be found at:
http://www.k3bu.us/loadingcoils.htm
to which you responded:
Obscure posting

So clearly, even with the information offered, you lack the capacity
to follow the rather simple instructions offered by
1.) Yuri,
2.) Roy,
3.) Myself
that must've occupied all of two sentences.

So to prove that it is baloney step forward
with the facts which up to now you have not divulged.


Art seeing it was YOUR claim, it is clearly baloney barring any
demonstration from you (we should live so long) of its accuracy,
irregardless of how
1.) Yuri,
2.) Roy,
3.) Myself
offer solutions.

What is more to the issue, is that it doesn't amount to 1dB
difference, a fact that is clearly upheld by work outside of EZNEC by
Wes.
www.qsl.net/n7ws
to which you responded:
Nothing on that post


So there you have it. Two sources, 4 individuals' work, and you have
nothing to offer - still.

You can at least let us know if you saw your shadow. If you cannot
muster the facts to answer this, I see no reason to respond to your
whining.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC