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October 4th 04, 06:27 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
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Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/2/2004 8:55 AM Central Standard Time
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In article , Dave Heil

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Len Over 21 wrote:

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Or, on the cheap side of the coin, "recycled" parts using mainly
technology that is 50 to 40 years old (K4YZ homepage).

What fault do you find with that and why doesn't any of it appear of
K4YZ's homepage?

Len is confused. He cannot deal with the fact that K4YZ and N2EY are not
the
same person.

There's a whole lot that he is confused about.

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb.

Nothing in the Southgate Type 7 is "cheap". The parts used were very
inexpensive, but of high quality.

Geez,
absolutely zilch time spent in trying to make any of it attractive.

Wrong again!

A lot of time and effort were spent making it attractive to the intended
market. No time or effort was spent making it attractive to Len.

Of course...the Supreme Engineer forgot that the purpose of the project
was to provide a functional device.

Ya missed the point.

"Attractiveness" is in the eye of the beholder. Look at how clothing designs
have changed over the years.

Tsk. Kluges are still kluges.

I don't know of any clothing styles called "kluges".

You should call it "modern radio art" and thereby rationalize that
you are "advancing the state of the radio art!" :-)

Is that an order?

Riiiiiight...by making "modern" radio designs using tubes in the
1990s...:-)

Electro-politically incorrect to you, I suppose...

I find that most of the "modern ready-built" radio sets are very
unattractive.

...just like all the other radio amateurs? :-)

I find some other radio amateurs unattractive too. Most I find to be
nice people.

Why are the designer-manufacturers continuing (after years of doing
so) to design such "unattractive" exteriors?

One reason is that it's cheaper for them to do so. Another is that, as
in fashion, conventional marketing wisdom says that things have to
change in order to sell more product.

Is it all a conspiracy
against the superior esthetic sense of Jimmie?

You can't be talking about me, because I don't claim any "superior
esthetic sense".

What I do have is "independent thought" about what's attractive and
not attractive. I find that most of the "modern ready-built" radio
sets are very
unattractive. If that's unacceptable to you, tough.

Cluttered front panels, poor color choices, knobs and displays way too small
and too close together, etc., etc. So I purposely avoid such design in my
projects. If the set is a little bigger because of it - so what?

Kluges are still kluges. :-)

Back to talking about clothing again?

Decals for radio markings have been around for a half century...

So what? I don't think the use of decals would make the Type 7
attractive to you.

are
clearer to read that scribbled felt-tip marker pen markings.

There are no such markings on the Type 7.

But, if
those are "beauty" to you, feel free to enjoy it.

I don't need your permission, Len.

Try NOT to impose
your "standards of beauty" (radio-wise) on others.

I don't. It is *you* who try to impose your standards of
"attractiveness" on others.

Yet we are yet to see any examples of *your* homebrew HF radio
projects, made in your own shop with only your own resources.

DOS tip, Len: AOL gives you a free home page with each screen name.
You can have up to seven! Plus they provide easy-to-use software to
help you set them up. Even I managed to get two of them done in a
short time. (Yes, there's another...)

So *show us* what *you* could do in the home workshop, using only your
own resources.

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About the Type 7:

Had I used "decals" on the Type 7, you'd complain that they were
glossy and hard to read, plus easy to rub or wash off.

Had I used tape labels, you'd complain that they looked "primitive"

Had I used engraved nameplates, you'd complain that they looked old
and like an afterthought.

Had I silkscreened the front panel, you'd complain that it wasn't
engraved.

Had I engraved the front panel, you'd complain about the color choice.

Or similar stuff.

Jim's radio did just that.

And much more.

Mission accomplished.

Not the stuff of "marketable design!"

That'd be a real problem if it was built to be a marketable design.

The intended market thinks it's an excellent design and of high quality
manufacture.

It seems that the real issue is that it bugs Len no end that someone
he considers an inferior (me) can do something he can't. Not just
building a rig, but being able to use it on the air. Not just from a
license/legal perspective, but from a practical operating skills
perspective.

We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio
professional"...profit.

Nothing wrong with that!

"Nothing wrong?"

No, there isn't.

Tsk. That's a hypocritical statement in here!

How? By whom?

WE do what we do for FUN!

Also service to our country.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHHHAAAAA....!!!!

Engaging in a part-time HOBBY is a "service to the country?"

Sure.

Do you think that amateur radio operators do not perform any service
to our country?

Jimmie must have a Visa to be a tourist in nursieworld.

Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of
radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man that
Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench on
the old :Laugh In" series.

I missed that...

It was easy to "miss." It never existed. :-)

Nursie went off the deep end without his little water wings again.

Tsk. You name-callers ought to look in MSN. :-)

I see you calling people names and Steve calling you names. I don't
call people names, Len.

Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio
professional" background.

Whatever

I am very pleased with my career choice...interesting, challenging
work doing many things over the last half century in radio and
electronics. Am still involved, though not in "regular hours." :-)

That's nice. Also irrelevant to amateur radio policy.

Do you need a resume? A little precis of my places of employment?

No, you've told us many, many times....

I've given that in here before...but that only caused nursie to go off
into some strange orbit and get very angry.

That never stops you from posting anything....