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Old August 21st 03, 02:36 PM
N8KDV
 
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Matt wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote in message
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Matt wrote:
"Dwayne" wrote in message
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says...
You do need help George... Hey! Did you take Billy8156 and
pilotjoeturner
with you on your fishing trip?

Your the one that needs help. For gods sake let it rest and grow up a
bit.

Concur - have seen George posting quite a lot of helpful comments,
suggestions and advice for many people on this group. All I have seen

from
you is some pretty nasty personal attacks - yet to read anything from

you
that is of use to anyone on this group - apart from the hate george

people
(term used loosly).
Goodbye


I don't think anyone actually 'hates' George. However, it needs to be

pointed
out that George likes to post as different characters other than himself.

Such
as Billy 8156, pilotjoeturner, and perhaps others as yet undiscovered. He

does
it here, and also on the MilCom list.


I certainly do not claim to be a computer geek, but when looking at headers
they do not seem to support your comments that it is one and the same person
making the posts. For a start, there are two seperate ISP's plus google
(which could be either of the other two admittedly).


I think a careful search will show you that George developed the pilotjoeturner
nick (an AOL account) when dealing with Allan Stern, another individual that
George has 'issues' with, other than Grove Enterprises. Otherwise pilotjoe is a
noshow anywhere else, at least on Google.

He developed Billy8156 (yahoo.com) apparently to do some discreet inquiries
regarding a hobby shop where he (George) had worked, and also for making other
inquiries where he did not want it to be known that it was him.

It seems very odd that Billy and George are so closely tied together, originally
from PA, then moving to Florida, working at the same place, etc. But not so odd
when one realises that they are one and the same.

George claims he lives just down the street, but in at least in one Google
message, Billy claimed to live 50 miles away. It's just a very strange picture.
And when one sees the post from Billy8156 looking for George Fetter but in a way
touting some model aircraft stuff George was involved in that has the
Licensed4Fun stuff at the bottom one becomes suspicious. Why was Billy looking
for George, when he was already involved in Licensed4Fun.com and obviously knew
George, and according to George they worked together?

Shortly thereafter, George must have realised his mistake, and the Licensed4Fun
stuff at the bottom of Billy8156 posts disappears.

And according to George he already knew Billy and that they worked together,
etc. And even makes up the convenient excuse that Billy was using his 'puter.
That is interesting also, as they both have the same exact habit of hitting the
wrong keys on the keyboard, and in some messages they say the same things,
especially about Grove, almost word for word.

Since he has these (and probably other) characters made up, they are there to
help defend him and pat him on the back when required.

I've got a feeling that Billy8156 and pilotjoeturner will probably go into
retirement now, and be replaced by other FOG's (Friends Of George).

I've received a few emails from individuals indicating that they to in the past
have checked the IP addresses of Billy8156 and that they come up the same as
Georges. I've also seen at least one copy of an email from George with an
interesting 'excuse' as to why this was so. Rubbish!

At any rate, it's quite interesting.




Personally I have seen nothing but helpful comments from George other than
when he has been hassled by others, and even then he has been very subdued
in his responses - which is better than I would have reacted.

Also, the excercise started when George made false statements, and put

down
those who were pointing folks to more complete up-to-date data, data that

was
not to be found on HIS website. And that tends to upset George, especially

when
one of those involved happens to be affiliated with Grove Enterprises.

George has 'issues'. Get over it.




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Dwayne
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/