From: "-=jd=-"
Organization: Little... If any...
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: 21 Jul 2005 03:51:17 GMT
Subject: " Bring Em On !"

On Wed 20 Jul 2005 01:31:03p, Greg wrote in
message :

(Cleverly presented argument from both sides snipped)


Seems to me that the "hatred", the truly
offensive and vitriolic commentary really took off with the right wing
talk shows on bcb radio. Especially during the Clinton administration
(encouraged by Clinton's bad deeds). Remember when Rush Slimeball
called Chelsea Clinton "the family dog"? Remember Mary Matalin whining
"Guess what Clinton has done now!" on a daily basis?


Are you saying that liberal hosts did not engage in similar behavior.

Nope, I'm saying the right wing media, once they found their voice and
reached their audience, mostly on the am BCB, ran amok and ratcheted up the
hateful commentary to an unprecedented (in my lifetime) degree. The only
liberal equivalent to Rush/Hannity/Savage/Ingraham/et al is Air America, and
those folks are basically irrelevant. Lionel, a lonely liberal voice on am,
is pretty reasonable and well-behaved compared to those neocon spokespeople.


Mention Hillary's
name and our friends on the right go ballistic, and she still won her
senate election, and will probably win many more.



Mention Rush's name and liberals hyperventilate and froth at the mouth. Yet
he will still continue to be succesful and make obscene profits.


No argument there. If success means he's right, then he is way right (pun
intended, I said, frothing at the mouth).

Tune in Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, et al, and the message is the same:
"Liberal elites" hate the president, hate the country, want our troops
to fail, want to free all the criminals and kill all the babies.


And, generally, they have a video or audio clip to back up their opinion
that "("Liberal elites" hate the president, hate the country, want our
troops to fail, want to free all the criminals and kill all the babies)".
In any event, you forgot to mention liberal hosts who engage in similar
behavior.

Again, I just don't see it. Not to the degree that the right wingers do.

Democrats, liberals, the left, didn't invent hatred.


No-one is saying they did, just that *currently* they are the source of the
majority of obstructionism, negativism, and vitriolic rhetoric in the
political realm.

I'm a Democrat. I
don't hate the president. I don't hate his brother Jeb, my governor.
And if I disagree with the President, it doesn't mean I don't support
our troops, no matter what some jerk on the radio says.

Thank God that reasonable men, like all of us on rrs can discuss our
differing views in a climate of friendliness and mutual respect!

Greg
Not elite!




True - any political group that finds itself on the minority side resorts
to offensive and vitriolic commentary, and it didn't begin during the
Clinton administration. It didn't begin with Burr and his duel. However,
the issue was not about behavior 10, 20 or 200 years ago, but rather the
behavior of today where it currently has impact on the political process.
And currently, it is the left's turn to be the spouter and perpetuators of
offensive, vitriolic commentary, obstructionism and negativism. One day,
when the democrats manage to get back in office, then it will be the
Republicans turn. And this thread will be reborn, but turned 180 degrees.


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Okay, you have the last word.
Happy monitoring.

Greg