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Old August 20th 19, 12:12 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default A question about two coils on one form

On 8/15/2019 2:41 PM, John S wrote:
On 8/15/2019 8:46 AM, amdx wrote:
On 8/14/2019 7:11 AM, John S wrote:
On 8/13/2019 9:29 AM, amdx wrote:
On 8/9/2019 8:06 AM, John S wrote:
On 8/8/2019 11:45 AM, amdx wrote:
Hi all,
If you put two coils on one form, but wind one in the opposite
direction, Do the currents flow in opposite directions?

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Mikek

PS. opposite winding direction as in clockwise or counter clockwise,
Â*Â*or like a left hand and right hand thread.

If it is a continuous coil with only two connections (start to
finish) but winding is reversed in the middle of the coil, the
current does not reverse.

Â*Â*That wasn't what I ask, but since I posted I did put an answer
together. It took me several drawing to get to a final answer that
makes it so simple I don't know why I ask the question. I took me
several hours to come to the conclusion though.
Â*Â*My answer to your question would be, the current does reverse and
for your example, the current would be very low. Probably not zero
because of time/phase concerns.

I have one drawing showing a coil and the right hand rule that gives
the answer.

file:///C:/Users/Lamont/Dropbox/contra%20wound%20coil%20with%20flux%20and%20curren t%20flow.jpg



Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Mikek

The current can not reverse in a series connection. But the magnet
field can reverse in the two series windings if one of the windings
is reverse wound.


Â*Â*I should have added more information.
The coil(s) are put in an electromagnetic field, creating a magnetic
field around the coil. the magnetic field creates a current in each coil.
what is the direction of each of those currents?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4k2hh4syd...0flow.jpg?dl=0


Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â* Mikek
PS, it took me hours to get this understood and now, it's like, well ya!


Ok. You have all the answers so go with that. Good luck.


That answer as stated makes me think you disagree. I would like to
have the conversation. Clearly is was a slog for me an I could easily
have something wrong.
I would say my strongest evidence would be that in order to make the
contracoil measure maximum inductance with a series connection, you
can't just connect the coils in the center and measure from the to
outside ends.
Please let me know what you think.
Mikek