"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Dwight:

Actually, it most certainly is the business of any radio amateur who
is properly concerned with the image of the ARS. This is supposed
to be a family-oriented hobby/service. Mr. Hollingsworth said it most
succinctly in his response to Kim when he raised the issue of the
possible negative reaction of a parent/grandparent/aunt/uncle who may
be considering this hobby for a young child in their life. Kim's
callsign
most certainly could cause such a person to question the judgment,
if not the personal integrity and morality, of radio amateurs in
general,
through this one bad example.

I'll say it again, the person uninvolved with amateur radio won't know
the
difference whether it was a sequentially or vanity-requested callsign.
The
average person would assume the FCC merely assigned it.

Ryan:

Well, that may be true, but it is the kind of moral relativism which is
causing
our society to plummet straight into the ground on full afterburner.

And it started long before Kim was even born for that matter......


(Yes, believe it or
not I actually polled people to see their responses the last time this
bullsh*t came up). There is the root of the problem, if you have such a
****y feeling towards Kim's (and many other potentially offensive by your
apparent standards) the why don't you spend your efforts whining to the
FCC
than wasting your time with posts that will not achieve ANY results other
than to get it off your chest and to hear yourself "bellow" in a
"electronic
medium."

I can't say I disagree with you here, Ryan. However, it is HERE that Kim
started on her campaign to trash up the image of the ARS, and it will be
here that I continue to keep the heat turned up under her feet. On the
slight
chance that she may throw in the towel and change her callsign, I could
then
take credit for saving her personal image and that of the ARS.

Right, and this is not ham radio, it is merely a discussion group relating
to amateur radio in some fashion or another.....


Throughout my adult life, I've been told that "perception is reality."
While I would personally make some allowances for poor choices based
on the immature judgment of younger people, Kim is certainly of an
age and station in life where such poor judgment is much less likely
to be excused. She is the only one who can make this controversy
go away. Should she choose not to, she leaves herself open to the
criticism of those of us who *are* offended and *do* object to her
choice
of a Vanity call sign.


Once again, if the callsign is so offensive, it is the FCC to blame.

Not really. The FCC is a government bureaucracy which must comply with
the demands placed on it by it's liberal, politically-appointed leaders.
They
simply cannot impose any kind of "judgment" upon radio amateurs with
regard to call sign selection, since to do so would imply that there are,
in
fact, moral absolutes...and that's one thing the government, which cannot
even permit a display of the Ten Commandments in a public building, just
isn't going to do these days. More's the pity.

The FCC is the issuing body that gives the licenses out to recipients who
have met the requirements for each license class at the time of issuance.
Unless some other governmental organization is the one actually issuing the
licenses and maintaining the callsign database, they ARE responsible. Write
to your congress or senatorperson to get the FCC to remove the list of what
callsigns you deem offensive. After all, the majority of the congress and
senate ARE Republicans now.




Any
vanity callsign or even if it even was a sequentially assigned that is
deemed offensive is their fault.

Yes on the sequential assignments, a definite no on the vanity calls.
A Vanity call sign is self-selected by it's recipient; the FCC, as stated
above, is not going to interfere.

Pure BS.... the FCC has people on their staff that can manage a database,
it's that simple. Remove the ones that are not "acceptable.



I should have the right to request ANY
callsign that is listed as "available" provided I have the initial right
to
do so by licensure requirements/benefits.

I totally agree. Moreover, I would add that you have the responsibility
to
make your selection one which is acceptable and not damaging to the
image of the ARS. Kim deliberately and willfully violated that concept
for the purpose of being able to flaunt a vulgar, "in your face,"
expression
of her "individuality."

I guess that is all a matter of perception. I would actually have to see
real proof that it really has damaged the ARS, other that a perception of a
few people here....



If the list is including some of
what you refer to as offensive, that is your problem, and the FCC's, not
the
rest of us.

No, it is the "problem" of everyone who seeks to uphold some semblance of
traditional moral values in our society.


Define which moral values. Different groups have different values that they
deem to be of the utmost importance. That is a different subject
all-together though.




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Ryan, KC8PMX
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