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Sirs:

I am a programmer and electrician, but not a radio person! I am
sending an experimental balloon to over 100,000 ft. I have purchased
two 900MHz RF Aerocomm ConnexLink Radios. The radios have a power of
1000 m.a., which states it will transmit and receive up to 20 miles
line of sight. I do realize that this is probably under ideal
circumstances and will not likely be the case when I actually deploy.
I would be interested in purchasing some antennas which would somehow
increase the range. What sort of characteristics make up a good
antenna for what I want to do? It is possible that someone could find
me one that would work with my project? Also, anything you might
contribute concerning radio transmission would be very much
appreciated.
Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are very
much welcome.

Thanks,
Brett

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Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are
very
much welcome.

Thanks,
Brett

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Dear Brett,

Just send me $800,000 US dollars and I will become your technical
adviser for life. Of course, I shall need time-off to spend it.
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Is that on Antenna/Radio needs only?
:-)

Reg Edwards wrote:
Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are

very
much welcome.

Thanks,
Brett

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Dear Brett,

Just send me $800,000 US dollars and I will become your technical
adviser for life. Of course, I shall need time-off to spend it.
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Too heavy. :-)

Irv Finkleman wrote:
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Sirs:

I am a programmer and electrician, but not a radio person! I am
sending an experimental balloon to over 100,000 ft. I have purchased
two 900MHz RF Aerocomm ConnexLink Radios. The radios have a power of
1000 m.a., which states it will transmit and receive up to 20 miles
line of sight. I do realize that this is probably under ideal
circumstances and will not likely be the case when I actually deploy.
I would be interested in purchasing some antennas which would somehow
increase the range. What sort of characteristics make up a good
antenna for what I want to do? It is possible that someone could find
me one that would work with my project? Also, anything you might
contribute concerning radio transmission would be very much
appreciated.
Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are very
much welcome.

Thanks,
Brett


How about a 100,000 ft trailing wire?

Irv VE6BP

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Sirs:

I am a programmer and electrician, but not a radio person! I am
sending an experimental balloon to over 100,000 ft. I have purchased
two 900MHz RF Aerocomm ConnexLink Radios. The radios have a power of
1000 m.a., which states it will transmit and receive up to 20 miles
line of sight. I do realize that this is probably under ideal
circumstances and will not likely be the case when I actually deploy.
I would be interested in purchasing some antennas which would somehow
increase the range. What sort of characteristics make up a good
antenna for what I want to do? It is possible that someone could find
me one that would work with my project? Also, anything you might
contribute concerning radio transmission would be very much
appreciated.
Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are very
much welcome.

Thanks,
Brett



Hi Brett .

Is it possible that your radio power level is 1,000 m.w. rather than 1000
m.a.?

I think this 'antenna' problem can be easily/inexpensively solved. if the
location of the balloon is known.

Jerry




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Is it possible that your radio power level is 1,000 m.w. rather than 1000
m.a.?


It most certainly is 1000 m.A.! I must have been quite exhausted when
I wrote that.


I think this 'antenna' problem can be easily/inexpensively solved. if the
location of the balloon is known.


The location of the balloon is not 'known'. I was hoping that you
would not have to point the antenna in the general direction. Can you
get an omnidirectional antenna?
Thanks,
Brett

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I must be cursed:
Yes, the power output is 1000 milliwatts.

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Sirs:

I am a programmer and electrician, but not a radio person! I am
sending an experimental balloon to over 100,000 ft. I have purchased
two 900MHz RF Aerocomm ConnexLink Radios. The radios have a power of
1000 m.a., which states it will transmit and receive up to 20 miles
line of sight. I do realize that this is probably under ideal
circumstances and will not likely be the case when I actually deploy.
I would be interested in purchasing some antennas which would somehow
increase the range. What sort of characteristics make up a good
antenna for what I want to do? It is possible that someone could find
me one that would work with my project? Also, anything you might
contribute concerning radio transmission would be very much
appreciated.
Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are very
much welcome.


Just about any antenna will work . I would look into a 1/4 wave antenna
mounted upside down so it is pointed down for the balloon. I hope you ment
1,000 mw, or one watt of power for the transmitter. I have heard the hams
in the space shuttle and space station with a 5/8 wavelength on my car.
They only run a few watts and are over 100 miles up. Also talked with an
airplane at 40,000 feet that was over 150 miles away. I was using a 10 watt
radio and a small beam. He was using a handy talkey with maybe 5 watts
inside the plane. Unless you are under a bunch of trees , there is not
much beter conditions than to be line of sight. While it will probably be
too small to see without a telescope, as long as the balloon is in sight
almost anything will work.


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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:20:43 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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Sirs:

I am a programmer and electrician, but not a radio person! I am
sending an experimental balloon to over 100,000 ft. I have purchased
two 900MHz RF Aerocomm ConnexLink Radios. The radios have a power of
1000 m.a., which states it will transmit and receive up to 20 miles
line of sight. I do realize that this is probably under ideal
circumstances and will not likely be the case when I actually deploy.
I would be interested in purchasing some antennas which would somehow
increase the range. What sort of characteristics make up a good
antenna for what I want to do? It is possible that someone could find
me one that would work with my project? Also, anything you might
contribute concerning radio transmission would be very much
appreciated.
Money is no object for this experiment, so any ideas you have are very
much welcome.


Just about any antenna will work . I would look into a 1/4 wave antenna
mounted upside down so it is pointed down for the balloon. I hope you ment


So that would have its pattern null pointed down at the earth?

Not to imply that the balloon would necessarily be directly above the
observer(s), but if and when it was at the zenith, it would be
relatively hard to hear.

The OP hasn't told us the elevation angles of the locations of the
balloon in flight, how fast it is likely to spin, data rate or
equivalent (eg is this intended to send images back?), etc... they are
all relevant to commenting on suitability of the 1000mA??? radio, and
the type of antennas for the balloon and ground station(s).

Owen

For an amateur balloon project, see
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~phil...oonlaunch1.htm
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