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heating padRFI?
Would a heating pad cause RFI ? My wife has intermittent back problems and
when she uses her heating pad it seems I get spikes of RFI on my AM reciever. I'm assuming it's that. I can't seem to track anything else that may be causing it.Thanks in advance, Will kilo alpha three victor india delta is my call __ __ ... ...__ __ -- Humble to the humble , inflexible to the arrogant . |
heating padRFI?
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Amerigo Vespucci wrote: Would a heating pad cause RFI ? My wife has intermittent back problems and when she uses her heating pad it seems I get spikes of RFI on my AM reciever. That's distinctly possible. Almost any load on the powerline can create RFI (either radiated or conducted) if its load-switching circuits cause sudden current changes on the line. It's possible to build AC power-switching circuits which minimize current transients and thus minimize radiated EMI. If I recall correctly, good ones will switch on when the AC voltage crosses through zero, and switch off when the AC current passes through zero. Your wife's heating-pad controller or thermostat may very well have a cheaper switching circuit which pays no attention to the powerline phase. If so, it'd probably generate a short spike of noise whenever the heating current was turned on or off. You could try plugging the pad into a good AC power-line filter, and/or using a snap-on ferrite or two on its power cord (wrap the ferrites in soft flannel :-) -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
heating padRFI?
Yes, it sure can cause RFI, but it will generally be relatively short
lived and periodic. If the thermostat in the pad is a simple bimetallic strip and doesn't have significant "snap action" the contacts will tend to have lesser contact as the temperature rises to the set point. This lighter contact can cause less than perfect electical contact between the contacts, creating RFI that is quite severe, until the contacts actually open. This can last several seconds, depending on the thermostat. A similar, but less significant problem can happen as the contacts close. I get a very similar high level RFI noise just before the water pump on the house I'm renting is about to switch in. The noise begins at a low level, then increases to maximum over about a half second, and continues for three to ten seconds, until the pump finally starts. Once the contacts make a good enough circuit to start the motor, the noise goes away. A similar noise happens with about a half second total time when the pump is about to stop. Changing the set point of the pump causes the time to vary some, and replacing the pressure switch worked for about six months before the noise returned. Happily, we should be moving into our new home in a couple of months, so can leave this pump behind. As already noted by another poster, filtering can help a fair bit, but may not totally eliminate the problem. On the other hand, if you are hearing longer term buzzing type of RFI particularly of a broadband nature, suspect any dimmer switches or "touch" lamps as the potential culprit... --Rick AH7H Dave Platt wrote: In article c49Dg.368$Ji1.130@trnddc05, Amerigo Vespucci wrote: Would a heating pad cause RFI ? My wife has intermittent back problems and when she uses her heating pad it seems I get spikes of RFI on my AM reciever. That's distinctly possible. Almost any load on the powerline can create RFI (either radiated or conducted) if its load-switching circuits cause sudden current changes on the line. It's possible to build AC power-switching circuits which minimize current transients and thus minimize radiated EMI. If I recall correctly, good ones will switch on when the AC voltage crosses through zero, and switch off when the AC current passes through zero. Your wife's heating-pad controller or thermostat may very well have a cheaper switching circuit which pays no attention to the powerline phase. If so, it'd probably generate a short spike of noise whenever the heating current was turned on or off. You could try plugging the pad into a good AC power-line filter, and/or using a snap-on ferrite or two on its power cord (wrap the ferrites in soft flannel :-) |
heating padRFI?
"Amerigo Vespucci" wrote:
Would a heating pad cause RFI ? My wife has intermittent back problems and when she uses her heating pad it seems I get spikes of RFI on my AM reciever. I'm assuming it's that. I can't seem to track anything else that may be causing it.Thanks in advance, Will A snubber across the contacts should stop the RFI. Try a 0.01uF 600V cap in series with 47 ohms. If you don't have a suitable 600V cap in your junk box, look in a discarded PC power supply or monitor. The AC line input will have 250VAC caps for RFI filtering. Regards, Mike Monett Antiviral, Antibacterial Silver Solution: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automat...pler/intro.htm |
heating padRFI?
Amerigo Vespucci wrote:
Would a heating pad cause RFI ? First things first -- unplug the pad and see if the RFI stops. QED! Irv VE6BP -- -------------------------------------- Visit my HomePage at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv/index.html Visit my Baby Sofia website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/index.htm Visit my OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/index.htm -------------------- Irv Finkleman, Grampa/Ex-Navy/Old Fart/Ham Radio VE6BP Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
heating padRFI?
Irv Finkleman wrote:
Amerigo Vespucci wrote: Would a heating pad cause RFI ? First things first -- unplug the pad and see if the RFI stops. QED! Without the XYL knowing it? -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
heating padRFI?
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message m... : Irv Finkleman wrote: : Amerigo Vespucci wrote: : Would a heating pad cause RFI ? : : First things first -- unplug the pad and see if the RFI stops. QED! : : Without the XYL knowing it? Then I'd have to crawl under the bed or sofa ,not an easy proposition :) It's definetly the heating pad.See I use a GE Superradio to listen some talk shows to help fall asleep at night and when the XYL uses her heating pad even downstairs it causes an rfi spike.Not long lived but long enough to annoy,alas. To the person that mentioned touch lamps ,yes we have them too and they just drown out am signals like .........you know how bad they can be. Thanks for all the input fellas,this newsgroup is da bomb ! : -- : 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
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