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Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

Cecil Moore wrote in
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funkbastler wrote:
... I gotta think that if I managed to learn Morse code, then so
can "they".

I'm sure that drivers licenses applicants can
learn to use buggy whips on their horseless
carriages, but should they be required to?

They should if they want to be good back seat drivers.

SC

Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

Dee Flint wrote:

Someone skilled in driving a vehicle with a manual transmission and actually
using it can reap a number of performance benefits. These include improved
gas mileage, better passing performance, better performance in hilly
terrain, etc. If people were required to learn how to drive vehicles with
manual transmissions, more of them might actually choose to drive such
vehicles.

Dee, N8UZE

Not all of those statements are always true. As fond as I am of manual
transmissions, sometimes automatics have the advantage. A hydraulic
torque converter with a manually controlled "automatic" transmission is
better at drag racing than a manual gearbox under many conditions.

This is less true under road race conditions where the lower torque
needed to be handled by the transmission allows the newer style "manual"
transmissions to change gears in milliseconds. The secret is 2
transmissions, one for the odd gears, one for the even, and 2 clutches,
you are literally in 2 gears at the same time for a short period of
time. Takes a lot of computer control. That's one way to do it, there
are others.

The landscape is very blurred nowadays concerning what is a manual and
what is an automatic transmission, with "manuals" in modern race cars
being more automatic than "automatics" in non-race cars.

And the state of CW vs digital is about the same. Except CW can always
be beat if your PC works. You just need to select the correct mode.

tom
K0TAR

Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
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Dee Flint wrote:

Someone skilled in driving a vehicle with a manual transmission and
actually using it can reap a number of performance benefits. These
include improved gas mileage, better passing performance, better
performance in hilly terrain, etc. If people were required to learn how
to drive vehicles with manual transmissions, more of them might actually
choose to drive such vehicles.

Dee, N8UZE

Not all of those statements are always true. As fond as I am of manual
transmissions, sometimes automatics have the advantage. A hydraulic
torque converter with a manually controlled "automatic" transmission is
better at drag racing than a manual gearbox under many conditions.

Never said they were always true. And most of us do not put racing
equipment in our personal, daily use street vehicles.

This is less true under road race conditions where the lower torque needed
to be handled by the transmission allows the newer style "manual"
transmissions to change gears in milliseconds. The secret is 2
transmissions, one for the odd gears, one for the even, and 2 clutches,
you are literally in 2 gears at the same time for a short period of time.
Takes a lot of computer control. That's one way to do it, there are
others.

The landscape is very blurred nowadays concerning what is a manual and
what is an automatic transmission, with "manuals" in modern race cars
being more automatic than "automatics" in non-race cars.

Again this does not affect the ordinary driver.

And the state of CW vs digital is about the same. Except CW can always be
beat if your PC works. You just need to select the correct mode.

tom
K0TAR

That last statement is a fallacy. The digital modes are wiped out by
conditions that will still permit CW to be used. Even SSB can sometimes be
used when conditions wipe out the digital. I have repeatedly said and now I
am emphasizing: EVERY MODE HAS ITS UNIQUE ADVANTAGES AND UNIQUE
DISADVANTAGES. It seems that people wish to deny that whatever mode they
don't want to deal with has any advantages whatsoever. They also wish to
attribute magic properties to whatever is their favorite mode. Both points
of view are foolish.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

Tom Ring wrote:
And the state of CW vs digital is about the same. Except CW can always
be beat if your PC works. You just need to select the correct mode.

PACTOR II works for me when I cannot even hear the signal.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

Dee Flint wrote:

That last statement is a fallacy. The digital modes are wiped out by
conditions that will still permit CW to be used. Even SSB can sometimes be
used when conditions wipe out the digital. I have repeatedly said and now I
snip
Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Wrong. There are digital modes that handle every distortion type that
exists. You just have to pick the correct one.

tom
K0TAR

Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

Dee Flint wrote:
The digital modes are wiped out by
conditions that will still permit CW to be used.

CW is wiped out by conditions that will still permit
PACTOR II to be used, e.g. I cannot hear any signals
at all on an apparently dead band and a friend in
Germany pops up on the screen.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Could you support making the No-code license one year non-renewable?

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
.. .
Dee Flint wrote:

That last statement is a fallacy. The digital modes are wiped out by
conditions that will still permit CW to be used. Even SSB can sometimes
be used when conditions wipe out the digital. I have repeatedly said and
now I
snip
Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Wrong. There are digital modes that handle every distortion type that
exists. You just have to pick the correct one.

tom
K0TAR

Name them. I've not found any one mode that can handle all conditions of
distortion. However, I have found from time to time that distortion can be
severe enough at times to wipe out all digital modes even if you try to
switch from mode to mode. Occasionally it can wipe out CW.

I repeat: EVERY MODE HAS ITS ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. To deny that is
foolish.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE