Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Phil Wheeler wrote:
AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance ;)

73, Phil W7OX
both are enteirly accurate

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance ;)

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

"Slow Code" wrote in message
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Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance ;)

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC

Any idiot can learn code. Not everyone can understand theory enough to make
it usable in day to day practice. I submit that SC is the "any idiot".

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

U-Know-Who wrote:
"Slow Code" wrote in message
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Any idiot can learn code. Not everyone can understand theory enough to make
it usable in day to day practice. I submit that SC is the "any idiot".
and knowing is not even vital to using it these days

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Slow Code wrote:
Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC
The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.

I would have said ignorance ;)

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC

Since when was talking as in Phone SSB not
"communication". Sure code is fine, but most of
us learned to key "mama" long after we learned to
say it ;)

73, Phil W7OX

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Smokey wrote:
Talking to a "no code" is like addressing someone given an honorary degree
as "doctor."

Hmm. OK, how about talking to a no-code with a yet-to-be-activated
General? I sat for & took the Tech, passed and they mentioned I could
take the General. Great. Passed that one as well. Working on Morse
now.

Missed the Extra, though, by a few questions.

Was my first shot at any exam.

Neither a Tech nor a General makes one a Ham, though.
Nor Morse.

That only qualifies you to be a good student of the avocation.
I don't expect to be really good at ham radio until I've played
around
with a transceiver for a year or two, maybe. Still need to learn
the lingo,
learn electronics, get my feet wet, build a receiver and maybe a
transmitter,
blow up a few caps..you know, OJT. Plus lots of hamfests where I'll
be looking for a cute hamette.

When I finally DO get a rig of some kind, I sorta kinda might be
Ready
for going after QSOs.

Even from folks who think I've got an honorary degree.

Good DX & 73,
Terry, KC9KEL newly minted

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

In article . net,
says...


Thanks for posting that chuck. I've never broken any of those on the air
or on usenet. Maybe now Markie and everyone else will see why CW is
important.

Thanks again and Keep up the good work.

73 de Slow Code




You need to read them again SC. You break them daily on usenet. You're
not considerate. You're down right unfriendly to some and You're about
unprogressive as they come.

73

Chris

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

In article . net,
says...
Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance ;)

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC


Any 12 year old can learn code in 2 weeks. Getting rid of it would not
dumb down Ham radio at all. Code is a good thing to know. Whether you
use it or not is a personal preference. I think programming you're own
software to send code yourself and building your own radio is a lot more
technical than learning code.

73

Chris

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Papa Dog wrote in
:

In article . net,
says...


Thanks for posting that chuck. I've never broken any of those on the
air or on usenet. Maybe now Markie and everyone else will see why CW
is important.

Thanks again and Keep up the good work.

73 de Slow Code




You need to read them again SC. You break them daily on usenet. You're
not considerate. You're down right unfriendly to some and You're about
unprogressive as they come.

73

Chris


You think that's bad? Wait until HF sounds 11 meters and you can't find a
decent contact anywhere. You'll see I was right.

I crawled out of my hole around restructuring time. Then the ARRL and FCC
screwed ham radio. I went back in my hole again. Now the FCC and it
appears with the blessings of the ARRL is planning to toss CW all
together. I come out of my hole to fight for the integrity of ham radio
once again, but when the R&O comes out eliminating CW, I'll crawl back
into my hole again. Leaving you and everyone else the problem of trying to
deal with poor behavior and operating practice on the bands. The result
of dumbing down licensing.

Outcome based education doesn't work, what makes you think outcome based
licensing will?

SC

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Papa Dog wrote in
:

In article . net,
says...
Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking
to someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance ;)

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have
all the communicators gone?

SC


Any 12 year old can learn code in 2 weeks. Getting rid of it would not
dumb down Ham radio at all. Code is a good thing to know. Whether you
use it or not is a personal preference. I think programming you're own
software to send code yourself and building your own radio is a lot more
technical than learning code.

73

Chris


But people don't want to be skilled at anything anymore. They don't want
to make an effort to learn CW, they may not make an effort to learn other
things to advance themselves technically either.

SC