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Richard Clark wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:16:13 -0500, Mike Coslo wrote: Awaiting my one-way trip to Linux hell for what I just wrote.... Hi Mike, Did you purchase your ticket through Red Hat or Suse's vendor support for a fee? Or did you roll your own for free? Rolling my own here Richard. Started out with Turbolinux, then another I'm afraid to say I forget the distro, and now have Fedora. I'm told SuSE is wonderful - and I was told that of the other flavors too. So I'm a little skeptical by now. Problems have been with installing software, hardware incompatibility, Internet connectivity - nothing like having to spend time looking for drivers - going to bbs's - eventually I found out that my wireless card simply wasn't supported AT ALL! That was special. I'm still hoping to find a flavor of Linux that won't give me indigestion. - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - |
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John Phillips wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote: Roy Lewallen wrote: I'd like to add a question. Why, instead of trying to get the Windows program developers to spend countless hours developing programs for the minuscule Linux market, don't the Linux users spend a little time getting Wine to work properly? If it seems to simple to port programs to Linux, why is it so hard to get open-source Wine to work? I have a computer with Linux installed. Perhaps I is a dummy, but even just installing programs, or searching for drivers is a nuisance. I'm always told how such and such flavor of Linux doesn't have that problem, but I'm on flavor number three, and still waiting for I don't have enough experience in it to make a firm judgement, but I think we are supposed to be happy if the operating system and hardware just works, let alone the software. Awaiting my one-way trip to Linux hell for what I just wrote.... - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - Wow........when I posted back about phasing verticals and my questions were answered by Roy, I mentioned sort of half hardily that I would have to use Windows to run EZNEC. Looks like my post took on a life of it's own. I'm what you can call a "Joe sixpack" when it comes to a computer and I have found the latest distributions of Fedora, SUSE, or Ubuntu to install and find all my drivers and hardware without a hitch. The finished install will give you a system that will be able to surf the Internet, do E-mail, chat with your buddy's on an IM if that is your bag. comes with a fine office suite, photo imaging software etc. The only drawback is propriety stuff such as multimedia programs etc. That stuff is available but it has to be installed later and that's where the "one-way trip to Linux Hell" begins for the first timer. although now even that is becoming point and click with the latest distros out there. I boot 4 different flavors plus Windows on one computer. For those that want to give Linux a try for the first time my advice is to install it on a separate computer just for Linux. It behaves nice on a Windows box, but if you are not somewhat familiar with partitioning and writing to the MBR for a dual boot and getting it back to a Windows default if you mess up, keep it on another machine. There is plenty of help on the Web, just do a Google search for a guide for which ever distro you have. The best part?...........with a broadband connection you can download and install Linux in half a day or less for FREE. check out http://distrowatch.com/ and pick your poison. This is not quite on topic for antennas, so excuse my rant on Linux. For me it's great, for you, maybe not. It's not Windows and I hope it never is. It's a Unix type system like a Mac, with a hell of a lot less worry about viruses and spyware. One of my biggest frustrations with Linux is that I use a Mac for most of my work, so I know just how nice a Unix based system can be. Install the software and use it. Period. Plug in the peripheral. Bang, there. Only time I have to drop to command line is occasional server maintenance, and even that is less and less often with the new Xserve tools. My biggest complaint is permissions problems that crop up occasionally. They are easy to solve, but a nuisance. - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:28:47 -0500, Mike Coslo
wrote: Rolling my own here Richard. Started out with Turbolinux, then another I'm afraid to say I forget the distro, and now have Fedora. I'm told SuSE is wonderful - and I was told that of the other flavors too. So I'm a little skeptical by now. Hi Mike, I've traveled the same path over the years. About a year ago I wrote a step-by-step guide for installing Fedora into a cold, bare machine. I also wrote a step-by-step guide for building servers (Apache/MySQL and the rest); and then followed up with a step-by-step guide for specialized application servers, Wikis and CMS packages. Of late I have also ventured into RubyOnRails with another a step-by-step guide. Problems have been with installing software, hardware incompatibility, Internet connectivity - nothing like having to spend time looking for drivers - going to bbs's - eventually I found out that my wireless card simply wasn't supported AT ALL! That was special. Hint: Support for "special" costs. Yeah, cold comfort - sorry. I'm still hoping to find a flavor of Linux that won't give me indigestion. Try Rolaids, or pay for support by buying into a vendor with a good reputation (you already indicate you know several). Almost every connectivity and configuration issue I researched was answered through a google newsgroup search, and then going to the links offered in their discussion. I presume you've already mined that approach. I have periods of this idle time, like now, that allow me to research these issues interspersed with intense demand for my attention. I also make it a habit to keep a journal in a nearly publish quality format. Memory (wet ram) is for the good things, ephemeral details like Linux configuration is for filing. I have nothing to offer for your specific driver need, sorry. However, for others, feel free to contact me for these guides. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
I encourage anyone who thinks it's a simple matter to develop a Linux program of the level of EZNEC to have at it. It's an untapped market. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Sorry, I didn't know it was in VB. I can understand how that makes it nearly impossible as I have worked where we had to do what you did going from DOS basic to Windows VB. I was hoping it was in something like C. I know what it's like to have an outsider ask you to port something that's large and then be surprised when told how long it would take. Ericsson was a bit miffed at me when told how long to port my US (Honeywell) version of the MD110 PBX database regenerator to an international version, and mine was all text based C. Thanks for the response Roy. tom K0TAR |
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