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So--is this a homework assignment?
David wrote: What sort of mode should be used on a Network Analyser for phase matching? Should it be some sort of Time Domain Reflectometer mode? Since the VNA operates "native" in the S-domain, I would recommend just doing S-parameter measurements. I believe you will find that all other measurements are derived from the measured S parameters. As I wrote before, if you believe that the cables are adequately represented by a linear two-port model, then the S-parametes tell you everything you need to know. (But a two-port model may not be adequate.) Caveat: be sure to measure them over a wide enough frequency range that you are sure that there is no phase ambiguity. VNAs typically do not distinguish among 0 degrees, -360 degrees, +360 degrees, +720 degrees. But the slope of phase versus frequency is pretty much a give-away clue. Input impedance of network analyser is 50 ohms. Many cables are 75 ohms impedance. For tests on these, a 75 ohm to 50 ohm converter or adaptor is used. Adaptor name is something like 'min loss pad'. OK, noted. If you are doing a lot of 75 ohm testing, you may perhaps want to get a 75 ohm VNA. My application is a system that checks the RF performance of a Unit Under Test (UUT). The test cables that mate with the UUT are longer than the UUT, so the aim is to get the cables to be exactly the same. This is reason for phase and batch matching - to avoid differential error. I'm not clear on what you're saying here. If you think that simply matching the pair of cables that go from your HP8753 VNA's Port 1 and Port 2 to the UUT will yield accurate test results on the UUT, you are sadly mistaken. To begin with, there is no need that the cables be matched in impedance, physical or electrical length, or loss. They may even have impedance irregularities, and things will still work. What will work _best_ is if they are low loss and stable. There definitly IS an Agilent/HP ap note about this sort of thing. What is important, if you want accurate absolute measurements on your UUT, is that you CALIBRATE the test system, including the VNA, the cables, and whatever else you have to connect up to the UUT. Modern VNAs, and in particular the HP/Agilent 8753, are designed to be calibrated at some plane in general remote from the VNA's ports, to automatically remove the effects of whatever cables you use to connect to your UUT. Because a lot of cables are analysed, the analysis is performed by computer which connects to Network Analyser. What data sets e.g. S12 should be compared by the Network Analyser to batch match the cables? OK, back to matching cables: what you match is up to you. YOU decide what's important. YOU may wish to put together a "cost function" that accounts for how badly you want each parameter matched. What is important in your particular application? You have four two-dimensional parameters to deal with: S11, S12, S21, S22. Presumably on a passive line, S11=S22 and S21=S12... Cables have different connectors on end, but still have to be batch matched. Have you any suggestions about this? Cables all have SMA connector at one end. At other end, the connector can be 1) SMA 2) 50 ohm N type 3) coax contact in circular connector. And you are trying to match cables with different connectors? That is, you're trying to match one cable with an SMA and an N, to another with two SMAs? Good luck! How do you then define where each cable ends? There are ways to do it, but it's going to depend on just what you are trying to accomplish in the end. If you're only trying to match cables of one type with others of the same type, what's the problem? You can put in whatever adapters you need, and measure the cables. For matching, what's important is that they are the SAME, not that they are some absolute value. Normally, phase matched cables are all made from same coax drum. Ensure coax comes in on one big drum, not lots of small drums that may have been made at different times using different processes (e.g. different operator or machine setting). And you have control over this? And you'll maintain control over this when they cables end up being manufactured by a CM overseas? You may well end up spending all your time just making sure they put the connectors on the cable properly. Anyway, if it ends up not affecting your final yield, does it really matter? Maybe you should just buy the raw cable from a vendor that has taken to heart the idea that process control is key. That vendor's cable may well be more consistent from reel to reel than another's is within a single reel. Cables are batch matched and assembled. If several years later, a cable breaks, how do I get a replacement batch matched cable to repair system? Although, I would have kept spare cables from original build, the cables on the system will have been subject to a different environment e.g. different stresses and humidity. You want them matched? Buy a new set. If one broke, and they are all subject to roughly the same conditions, the others are most likely near (or beyond) the end of their service life. If there are stresses on them that can change them, and if matching is important, why have you not set up a calibration cycle on them? If you kept a spare or spares of the set, why did you not cycle those through the active set on a regular basis, if you think that they will be affected by whatever environment the active set is subject to? If, for example, they are bundled, why not just include the spare(s) in the bundle, terminated in dummy connectors, so they are always ready to go? There are solutions for what you suggest. There are undoubtedly engineering (technical, cost, ...) tradeoffs among the different solutions. Evaluate them against the application and pick one. If you discover you picked the wrong one, learn from the mistake and do it differently the next time. Another scenario. RF cable is built in slightly more humid environment, resulting in more moisture in dielectric. Vector gen run and passes. Cable dries out becoming much better. Vector gen then fails. It appears that a cable can become too good. If you're worried about that, why have you not set up a calibration in the "vector gen" that takes care of it? (The dielectrics and jackets on cables properly chosen for the application should not have a problem with humidity. Also, consider where most of the loss in coaxial cable is...) Your questions sound a lot like they are spurred by a homework assignment; they are too broad it seems to be targetting a particular application. That's all OK, but at some point, you have to get down to the tradeoffs for a specific application, and make your choices based on that--on what you have control over, on what the specific needs are, on the costs ($, time, other resources, ...) associated with various solutions. Cheers, Tom |