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Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
"Juan Skinner" wrote in
ups.com: The trouble with a code is that it is designed to keep people out. Once you've learned the 'secret' code, it makes you feel that you have something that you, and a select group of others can participate in. Once you're up there, see how quickly you pull the ladder up. Does a proficiency in CW make for a better operator? Yes, in a way. It shows a studious interest in the hobby and is a worth achievement but does it make a more courtious or interesting operator? Certainly not, and this group is witness to that. "People who don't use code are lazy", What? Is that the only discipline available to allow someone to experiment with radio? Absolutely not! How about learning electronics and building your own equipment? Is that a lesser or a greater achievement? How about taking the hobby forward by progressing and leading cutting edge technologies? It was after all the amateur fraternity who brought this new fangled SSB phone mode. Were are at the dawn of a new digital age on all you people can do is look backwards and remain firmly rooted in the seventeenth century. Come on, wake up and smell the 21st century. It's got to be incorporated into the exams then, otherwise hams aren't going to learn and do it. If ham radio is to modernize hams must be forced to modernize. CW isn't preventing the modernization of ham radio, Laziness is. Look at the no-coders on the repeaters. Many of them have been licensed for years and they ain't moderizating. They're no better than they were the day they were first licensed. The passing score on written exams need to be 85% and double the number of questions on each test element. I push for quality hams. If you don't like quality there is CB. Let's not turn the ham bands into CB SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:22:49 GMT, Slow Code wrote:
"Juan Skinner" wrote in oups.com: The trouble with a code is that it is designed to keep people out. Once you've learned the 'secret' code, it makes you feel that you have something that you, and a select group of others can participate in. Once you're up there, see how quickly you pull the ladder up. Does a proficiency in CW make for a better operator? Yes, in a way. It shows a studious interest in the hobby and is a worth achievement but does it make a more courtious or interesting operator? Certainly not, and this group is witness to that. "People who don't use code are lazy", What? Is that the only discipline available to allow someone to experiment with radio? Absolutely not! How about learning electronics and building your own equipment? Is that a lesser or a greater achievement? How about taking the hobby forward by progressing and leading cutting edge technologies? It was after all the amateur fraternity who brought this new fangled SSB phone mode. Were are at the dawn of a new digital age on all you people can do is look backwards and remain firmly rooted in the seventeenth century. Come on, wake up and smell the 21st century. It's got to be incorporated into the exams then, otherwise hams aren't going to learn and do it. If ham radio is to modernize hams must be forced to modernize. CW isn't preventing the modernization of ham radio, Laziness is. Look at the no-coders on the repeaters. Many of them have been licensed for years and they ain't moderizating. They're no better than they were the day they were first licensed. The passing score on written exams need to be 85% and double the number of questions on each test element. I push for quality hams. If you don't like quality there is CB. Let's not turn the ham bands into CB SC CW is way tough to learn `Slow. . . ANY Idiot who wants to try to enter the world of HAM will be totally filtered out by that one, huh SC? It's BUILDING Advanced Systems that's the easy part. That, and launching new and improved satellites, (Stupid Rocket Science is for Babies! Right?) That Big ol C.W. requirement will be the solid bastion against any unwanted foolish sort of person trying to gain entry to the Wonderful World of HAM, . . . Forever and a day! Ain't that right, `Good Buddy! . . SC? G'me a big ol' 10/4 there `Slow! The only thing that CW means is that one knows how to communicate via radio in the style which is reminisce of old telegraph lines from the early western era. Nothing more. It's like seeing somebody ride a hose dressed in a cowboy hat. . . You've GOT to have that damn Hat in order to ride a horse! Period! In the same way CW is to HAM Radio nowadays. Pretty stupid, huh? Hey, I got a good one for you all out there in `Net Land: Around my place, the HAMs are such a bunch of Butt-Heads that people wanting to learn how to code, TRAIN BY USING THE CB BANDS!!! You see, that way they don't get their butt's chewed out by people "Who Know Better" and are "Professionals in CW", and so they "Quit mucking up the bandwidth with their stupid banter!" Around these parts, I have to admit the CB'ers are a whole lot NICER group of people than the High and Mighty "Generals" and "Extras" ever thought of being. Just because they can tap out a code on a brass button with a tin shoe horn! How pathetic can one get! We might as well bring out some "Musical Spoons" too! SC, have you looked up the word "Moron" in the dictionary yet? Its really not what you think you know about it. Honest. |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Slow Idiot:
1) Get a life! 2) Get a news group! (might I suggest rec.radio.amateur.cw? Of course, you will have to found this new group.) I am sure there are just thousands waiting in the wings to join a newsgroup devoted to cw! JS "Slow Code" wrote in message ink.net... "Juan Skinner" wrote in ups.com: The trouble with a code is that it is designed to keep people out. Once you've learned the 'secret' code, it makes you feel that you have something that you, and a select group of others can participate in. Once you're up there, see how quickly you pull the ladder up. Does a proficiency in CW make for a better operator? Yes, in a way. It shows a studious interest in the hobby and is a worth achievement but does it make a more courtious or interesting operator? Certainly not, and this group is witness to that. "People who don't use code are lazy", What? Is that the only discipline available to allow someone to experiment with radio? Absolutely not! How about learning electronics and building your own equipment? Is that a lesser or a greater achievement? How about taking the hobby forward by progressing and leading cutting edge technologies? It was after all the amateur fraternity who brought this new fangled SSB phone mode. Were are at the dawn of a new digital age on all you people can do is look backwards and remain firmly rooted in the seventeenth century. Come on, wake up and smell the 21st century. It's got to be incorporated into the exams then, otherwise hams aren't going to learn and do it. If ham radio is to modernize hams must be forced to modernize. CW isn't preventing the modernization of ham radio, Laziness is. Look at the no-coders on the repeaters. Many of them have been licensed for years and they ain't moderizating. They're no better than they were the day they were first licensed. The passing score on written exams need to be 85% and double the number of questions on each test element. I push for quality hams. If you don't like quality there is CB. Let's not turn the ham bands into CB SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Fred Furlly wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:22:49 GMT, Slow Code wrote: "Juan Skinner" wrote in roups.com: The trouble with a code is that it is designed to keep people out. Once you've learned the 'secret' code, it makes you feel that you have something that you, and a select group of others can participate in. Once you're up there, see how quickly you pull the ladder up. Does a proficiency in CW make for a better operator? Yes, in a way. It shows a studious interest in the hobby and is a worth achievement but does it make a more courtious or interesting operator? Certainly not, and this group is witness to that. "People who don't use code are lazy", What? Is that the only discipline available to allow someone to experiment with radio? Absolutely not! How about learning electronics and building your own equipment? Is that a lesser or a greater achievement? How about taking the hobby forward by progressing and leading cutting edge technologies? It was after all the amateur fraternity who brought this new fangled SSB phone mode. Were are at the dawn of a new digital age on all you people can do is look backwards and remain firmly rooted in the seventeenth century. Come on, wake up and smell the 21st century. It's got to be incorporated into the exams then, otherwise hams aren't going to learn and do it. If ham radio is to modernize hams must be forced to modernize. CW isn't preventing the modernization of ham radio, Laziness is. Look at the no-coders on the repeaters. Many of them have been licensed for years and they ain't moderizating. They're no better than they were the day they were first licensed. The passing score on written exams need to be 85% and double the number of questions on each test element. I push for quality hams. If you don't like quality there is CB. Let's not turn the ham bands into CB SC CW is way tough to learn `Slow. . . ANY Idiot who wants to try to enter the world of HAM will be totally filtered out by that one, huh SC? It's BUILDING Advanced Systems that's the easy part. That, and launching new and improved satellites, (Stupid Rocket Science is for Babies! Right?) That Big ol C.W. requirement will be the solid bastion against any unwanted foolish sort of person trying to gain entry to the Wonderful World of HAM, . . . Forever and a day! Ain't that right, `Good Buddy! . . SC? G'me a big ol' 10/4 there `Slow! The only thing that CW means is that one knows how to communicate via radio in the style which is reminisce of old telegraph lines from the early western era. Nothing more. It's like seeing somebody ride a hose dressed in a cowboy hat. . . You've GOT to have that damn Hat in order to ride a horse! Period! In the same way CW is to HAM Radio nowadays. Pretty stupid, huh? Hey, I got a good one for you all out there in `Net Land: Around my place, the HAMs are such a bunch of Butt-Heads that people wanting to learn how to code, TRAIN BY USING THE CB BANDS!!! You see, that way they don't get their butt's chewed out by people "Who Know Better" and are "Professionals in CW", and so they "Quit mucking up the bandwidth with their stupid banter!" Around these parts, I have to admit the CB'ers are a whole lot NICER group of people than the High and Mighty "Generals" and "Extras" ever thought of being. Just because they can tap out a code on a brass button with a tin shoe horn! How pathetic can one get! We might as well bring out some "Musical Spoons" too! SC, have you looked up the word "Moron" in the dictionary yet? Its really not what you think you know about it. Honest. Moron: Anyone who replies to SC. |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
"John Smith" wrote in
: Slow Idiot: 1) Get a life! 2) Get a news group! (might I suggest rec.radio.amateur.cw? Of course, you will have to found this new group.) I am sure there are just thousands waiting in the wings to join a newsgroup devoted to cw! JS ROFL, I bet it just ****es your lazy ass off you gotta learn something to get on HF. Be happy, they dumbed things down for ya. SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
SI (Slow Idiot):
U R an ideal idiot, a pinnacle of an example of an idiot, even professional idiots worship at your feet... JS "Slow Code" wrote in message ink.net... "John Smith" wrote in : Slow Idiot: 1) Get a life! 2) Get a news group! (might I suggest rec.radio.amateur.cw? Of course, you will have to found this new group.) I am sure there are just thousands waiting in the wings to join a newsgroup devoted to cw! JS ROFL, I bet it just ****es your lazy ass off you gotta learn something to get on HF. Be happy, they dumbed things down for ya. SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Slow Idiot:
I am going to do you a BIG favor. You didn't know I was psychic, did you? Well, I am, let me give you a reading... You are the kind of guy who impresses young children, old women, and mentally and technically challenged individuals. You realize that you have that special autistic ability of being able to rap out, and quite profusely--probably, those taps in code. You were quick to realize that individuals with low self esteem, persons of low self-worth and individuals seeming to lack any skills what-so-ever were VERY impressed by such an ability--of course these individuals also failed to realize just how stupid it was to "hero worship" such a trivial ability. However, for one such as you, un-remarkable in all other ways type of guy, no great IQ, no other real skills or abilities, a general inability to get along in the general society, etc... for you, this was a way of "feeling special." But, it came at a price, it blinded you to how simple others with real abilities, high IQ's, great skills, good social abilities, etc. viewed you. You simply shut your ears, your eyes and your mind to reality; you finally reached a point where you were unable to care, to see... You came to live in your "special world" where you are quite special, talented, skilled, etc. You live there now, you think you enlighten us with your wasted "text verbiage" here, you draw upon others good will and tolerance, you keep thinking you have a great message to impart to us. That soon a revelation will strike us and we will all recognize you for the great man you think you are... This story goes on and on, indeed, it appears as if it is one of those special, un-ending story with you painted as lead hero, painted as such by you, yourself--of course... well, even you can see where I am going with all of this. And, you know it is true. You know we will be watching your behavior in sheer unbelief and amazement, you realize you really do look quite stupid. You realize you have painted yourself into a corner which you cannot escape. And, it dawns upon you, you have nothing to lose, all credibility is lost--you may as well continue on your present course--there is nothing to be lost--it has already been gone for quite a time... still, your only two choices is facing your peers disgust, or quitting, and I am betting you just can't quit. I have never seen an individual like you who was able... Good luck... P.S. I am really not psychic--but you already knew that... It is just that such small intellect as you display is simple to define... but you knew that--already. You are simply trapped by the particular mental disorder which plagues you, your world is small and therefore you expect it to be so for all others. You are now but an actor on a stage--your part has already been written, you now only perform your part... a limited performance, a small performance, a vile performance, but still--it is yours, and it tells a much larger picture about you--how much better it would be if performed for people who actually cared... JS "Slow Code" wrote in message ink.net... "John Smith" wrote in : Slow Idiot: 1) Get a life! 2) Get a news group! (might I suggest rec.radio.amateur.cw? Of course, you will have to found this new group.) I am sure there are just thousands waiting in the wings to join a newsgroup devoted to cw! JS ROFL, I bet it just ****es your lazy ass off you gotta learn something to get on HF. Be happy, they dumbed things down for ya. SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Slow Idiot: I am going to do you a BIG favor. You didn't know I was psychic, did you? Well, I am, let me give you a reading... You are the kind of guy who impresses young children, old women, and mentally and technically challenged individuals. You realize that you have that special autistic ability of being able to rap out, and quite profusely--probably, those taps in code. You were quick to realize that individuals with low self esteem, persons of low self-worth and individuals seeming to lack any skills what-so-ever were VERY impressed by such an ability--of course these individuals also failed to realize just how stupid it was to "hero worship" such a trivial ability. However, for one such as you, un-remarkable in all other ways type of guy, no great IQ, no other real skills or abilities, a general inability to get along in the general society, etc... for you, this was a way of "feeling special." But, it came at a price, it blinded you to how simple others with real abilities, high IQ's, great skills, good social abilities, etc. viewed you. You simply shut your ears, your eyes and your mind to reality; you finally reached a point where you were unable to care, to see... You came to live in your "special world" where you are quite special, talented, skilled, etc. You live there now, you think you enlighten us with your wasted "text verbiage" here, you draw upon others good will and tolerance, you keep thinking you have a great message to impart to us. That soon a revelation will strike us and we will all recognize you for the great man you think you are... This story goes on and on, indeed, it appears as if it is one of those special, un-ending story with you painted as lead hero, painted as such by you, yourself--of course... well, even you can see where I am going with all of this. And, you know it is true. You know we will be watching your behavior in sheer unbelief and amazement, you realize you really do look quite stupid. You realize you have painted yourself into a corner which you cannot escape. And, it dawns upon you, you have nothing to lose, all credibility is lost--you may as well continue on your present course--there is nothing to be lost--it has already been gone for quite a time... still, your only two choices is facing your peers disgust, or quitting, and I am betting you just can't quit. I have never seen an individual like you who was able... Good luck... P.S. I am really not psychic--but you already knew that... It is just that such small intellect as you display is simple to define... but you knew that--already. You are simply trapped by the particular mental disorder which plagues you, your world is small and therefore you expect it to be so for all others. You are now but an actor on a stage--your part has already been written, you now only perform your part... a limited performance, a small performance, a vile performance, but still--it is yours, and it tells a much larger picture about you--how much better it would be if performed for people who actually cared... JS Bingo!!!!! |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:18:23 -0800, "John Smith"
spake thusly: Slow Idiot: I am going to do you a BIG favor. You didn't know I was psychic, did you? Well, I am, let me give you a reading... You are the kind of guy who impresses young children, old women, and mentally and technically challenged individuals. You realize that you have that special autistic ability of being able to rap out, and quite profusely--probably, those taps in code. You were quick to realize that individuals with low self esteem, persons of low self-worth and individuals seeming to lack any skills what-so-ever were VERY impressed by such an ability--of course these individuals also failed to realize just how stupid it was to "hero worship" such a trivial ability. However, for one such as you, un-remarkable in all other ways type of guy, no great IQ, no other real skills or abilities, a general inability to get along in the general society, etc... for you, this was a way of "feeling special." But, it came at a price, it blinded you to how simple others with real abilities, high IQ's, great skills, good social abilities, etc. viewed you. You simply shut your ears, your eyes and your mind to reality; you finally reached a point where you were unable to care, to see... You came to live in your "special world" where you are quite special, talented, skilled, etc. You live there now, you think you enlighten us with your wasted "text verbiage" here, you draw upon others good will and tolerance, you keep thinking you have a great message to impart to us. That soon a revelation will strike us and we will all recognize you for the great man you think you are... This story goes on and on, indeed, it appears as if it is one of those special, un-ending story with you painted as lead hero, painted as such by you, yourself--of course... well, even you can see where I am going with all of this. And, you know it is true. You know we will be watching your behavior in sheer unbelief and amazement, you realize you really do look quite stupid. You realize you have painted yourself into a corner which you cannot escape. And, it dawns upon you, you have nothing to lose, all credibility is lost--you may as well continue on your present course--there is nothing to be lost--it has already been gone for quite a time... still, your only two choices is facing your peers disgust, or quitting, and I am betting you just can't quit. I have never seen an individual like you who was able... Good luck... P.S. I am really not psychic--but you already knew that... It is just that such small intellect as you display is simple to define... but you knew that--already. You are simply trapped by the particular mental disorder which plagues you, your world is small and therefore you expect it to be so for all others. You are now but an actor on a stage--your part has already been written, you now only perform your part... a limited performance, a small performance, a vile performance, but still--it is yours, and it tells a much larger picture about you--how much better it would be if performed for people who actually cared... It's ironic how he thumps his chest, claiming to be the bearer of all that is good and true in the ARS yet he directly and blatantly violates the very standards he champions. For example, the very fact that he uses completely off-topic newsgroups as his soap box is exactly the same as operating a radio on completely un-authorized frequencies and power levels. His mental disorder prevents him from seeing this. It's quite sad, really. We should pity him. -- (Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94) "What, Me Worry?" A. E. Newman Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at my discretion, be posted in this newsgroup verbatim. |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
From: "John Smith" on Wed, Nov 29 2006 8:18 pm
Slow Idiot: I am going to do you a BIG favor. You didn't know I was psychic, did you? Well, I am, let me give you a reading... "Bang on," John (as they say in the UK). :-) You are the kind of guy who impresses young children, old women, and mentally and technically challenged individuals. You realize that you have that special autistic ability of being able to rap out, and quite profusely--probably, those taps in code. You were quick to realize that individuals with low self esteem, persons of low self-worth and individuals seeming to lack any skills what-so-ever were VERY impressed by such an ability--of course these individuals also failed to realize just how stupid it was to "hero worship" such a trivial ability. Such hero worship is over a half century LATE. But, some have had their thinking conditioned by continuous propaganda from a certain membership organization for just as long. Their brains have been thoroughly washed and they found themselves hung out to dry in the yard of ignorance and apathy of a time gone by. However, for one such as you, un-remarkable in all other ways type of guy, no great IQ, no other real skills or abilities, a general inability to get along in the general society, etc... for you, this was a way of "feeling special." But, it came at a price, it blinded you to how simple others with real abilities, high IQ's, great skills, good social abilities, etc. viewed you. You simply shut your ears, your eyes and your mind to reality; you finally reached a point where you were unable to care, to see... You came to live in your "special world" where you are quite special, talented, skilled, etc. You live there now, you think you enlighten us with your wasted "text verbiage" here, you draw upon others good will and tolerance, you keep thinking you have a great message to impart to us. That soon a revelation will strike us and we will all recognize you for the great man you think you are... "Great man?" No, a Grate man, a sociopathic bigot. This story goes on and on, indeed, it appears as if it is one of those special, un-ending story with you painted as lead hero, painted as such by you, yourself--of course... well, even you can see where I am going with all of this. And, you know it is true. You know we will be watching your behavior in sheer unbelief and amazement, you realize you really do look quite stupid. You realize you have painted yourself into a corner which you cannot escape. And, it dawns upon you, you have nothing to lose, all credibility is lost--you may as well continue on your present course--there is nothing to be lost--it has already been gone for quite a time... still, your only two choices is facing your peers disgust, or quitting, and I am betting you just can't quit. I have never seen an individual like you who was able... He can't quit now. Like Robeson, he's already dug his way too deep into his own egotistical underworld, has NOTHING to support his conception beyond the Archaid Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) propaganda that is over a half century out of date. Good luck... I cannot agree on that...for, like all egotistical bigots, he insists that he is the "model" for all to emulate. Ignorance of the rest of the radio world is no excuse. Rather, I wish him all the bad luck possible. :-( P.S. I am really not psychic--but you already knew that... It is just that such small intellect as you display is simple to define... but you knew that--already. You are simply trapped by the particular mental disorder which plagues you, your world is small and therefore you expect it to be so for all others. You are now but an actor on a stage--your part has already been written, you now only perform your part... a limited performance, a small performance, a vile performance, but still--it is yours, and it tells a much larger picture about you--how much better it would be if performed for people who actually cared... Absolutely NO psychic abilities needed to see his "act" and judge this meanderthal of morse. If he were really on stage he would be booed off without any audience hesitation. Exit stage left...hastily. The odd part of these forums is that they do NOT exit. These sociopathic bigots enjoy their own virtual worlds too well to leave. Separated by time, distance, and anonymity possible in here, they fear nothing and operate with impunity. They love only themselves and their words, the "getting even" with all others who have given them frustrations elsewhere. They need the tarnkappen of their own-tailored invisible clothes of grandeur. If there be pity for them it would be for their own naked ignorance. LA |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
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It's a war people, and the lazy asses are trying to take over.
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Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
"U-Know-Who" wrote in
: "John Smith" wrote in message ... Slow Idiot: I am going to do you a BIG favor. You didn't know I was psychic, did you? Well, I am, let me give you a reading... You are the kind of guy who impresses young children, old women, and mentally and technically challenged individuals. You realize that you have that special autistic ability of being able to rap out, and quite profusely--probably, those taps in code. You were quick to realize that individuals with low self esteem, persons of low self-worth and individuals seeming to lack any skills what-so-ever were VERY impressed by such an ability--of course these individuals also failed to realize just how stupid it was to "hero worship" such a trivial ability. However, for one such as you, un-remarkable in all other ways type of guy, no great IQ, no other real skills or abilities, a general inability to get along in the general society, etc... for you, this was a way of "feeling special." But, it came at a price, it blinded you to how simple others with real abilities, high IQ's, great skills, good social abilities, etc. viewed you. You simply shut your ears, your eyes and your mind to reality; you finally reached a point where you were unable to care, to see... You came to live in your "special world" where you are quite special, talented, skilled, etc. You live there now, you think you enlighten us with your wasted "text verbiage" here, you draw upon others good will and tolerance, you keep thinking you have a great message to impart to us. That soon a revelation will strike us and we will all recognize you for the great man you think you are... This story goes on and on, indeed, it appears as if it is one of those special, un-ending story with you painted as lead hero, painted as such by you, yourself--of course... well, even you can see where I am going with all of this. And, you know it is true. You know we will be watching your behavior in sheer unbelief and amazement, you realize you really do look quite stupid. You realize you have painted yourself into a corner which you cannot escape. And, it dawns upon you, you have nothing to lose, all credibility is lost--you may as well continue on your present course--there is nothing to be lost--it has already been gone for quite a time... still, your only two choices is facing your peers disgust, or quitting, and I am betting you just can't quit. I have never seen an individual like you who was able... Good luck... P.S. I am really not psychic--but you already knew that... It is just that such small intellect as you display is simple to define... but you knew that--already. You are simply trapped by the particular mental disorder which plagues you, your world is small and therefore you expect it to be so for all others. You are now but an actor on a stage--your part has already been written, you now only perform your part... a limited performance, a small performance, a vile performance, but still--it is yours, and it tells a much larger picture about you--how much better it would be if performed for people who actually cared... JS Bingo!!!!! I'm happy you two lazy ass Lids found each other, when ya getting married? I suggest you two, plus Markie, Opus and stay out of this thread. It's only for people like me that want to protect and preserve the quality & integrity of the amateur radio service. People like you, John Smith, Opus, Lenny and Markie want to destroy it because you believe people shouldn't have to learn anything or be good at anything to be a ham radio operator. SC |
It's a war people, and the lazy asses are trying to take over.
Slow Code wrote:
We dare not let Lenny and the rest of the dumb-it-down crowd win. SC SC: Sometimes I am convinced that you are an excellent "satire comedian." Other times, you have me convinced you are for real. Sometimes you have me busting a gut and laughing until tears come, other times you yank my heart-stings in pity. Take this last post of your, it can be viewed as tongue-in-cheek satire, or, it can be viewed as insane rant. Certainly you cannot place much importance on CW. Amateurs have a real purpose, to expand radio on ALL frontiers. Help in the community, help in educating the youth in radio, help in disasters, help in developing techniques, equip., theory development, etc. (the list really goes on-and-on here) Probably the least important aspects of all this is rag chewing, contesting, favoritism of individuals and groups, etc. They are fun for some and amateur radio has a place for these activities, but these are self-serving and we must be careful least amateurs on a whole end up being judged on such self-serving behaviors. However, when we are taking from amateur radio for our own personal goals, likes and entertainment we are NOT giving. Or, put simply, I can easily imagine Einstein, Tesla, De Forest, Bell, etc. having a great interest in radio, however, I am in doubt as to them getting excited about having to learn morse to obtain the license. So, when you go crying "the sky is falling" over amateur radio progressing and dropping an ancient tradition of morse testing, how can any logical mind view you as NOT being self-serving, how can anyone take you seriously at all? Are you a con man attempting to sell us the idea that you really see great benefit in CW? That CW is a major part of radio in 2006? Come on man, anyone crying such nonsense is going to be called on those cons schemes immediately. You see CW as being a real barrier, something that many who desperately want to become amateurs will avoid and by so avoiding fail to obtain an amateur license. Certainly you cannot really believe that; you can see how people would view you as deranged if you held such views, can't you? If someone really wants an amateur license, it they are so devoted to hero worship of amateurs as your were--they will end up with that license in their back pocket--even some uneducated and mentally challenged person from the back swamps of DumbBuck Egypt can learn to tap that code if he/she is driven. I think as a young man, you viewed amateurs in some form of hero worship. I think you viewed them as larger than life. I am afraid that once you obtained your license, these fantasies did not fade. Indeed, you wove these fantasies into your ego and your ego became dependent on your amateur license hanging on your wall. You recognized that if a very large number of people had amateur licenses (say the same number who hold fishing licenses or drivers licenses or contracting licenses, etc.) your feeling of being "special" would go away. So, you began to plot. You began to find ways you felt would stop people from getting licenses and get behind those ideas and push them and sell them. You certainly knew there were other such individuals as yourself out there and they would come to your aid. Indeed, I do not even think you were the one to come up with the original idea, I think that would have been beyond you. Someone else came up with the idea, you just jumped on his/her bandwagon. So, now we arrive here. And, you are indeed correct, CW does make some shy away from amateur radio. The reward of having an amateur license is just not big enough for them to learn a set of dits and dahs to send messages with, frankly, I see Einstein never bothered. I guess you look at this as a "winning" situation, I do not. I look at it as a evil self-centered plan which you and others are engaged in to limit amateur radio, and it just kind-of-got-that-way because no one has taken you to task. I know of no good reasons to maintain any CW requirement in amateur testing. Even learning it for historical reasons does not justify the expenditure of time and effort it requires just to purchase a radio, buy an antenna and grab up a mic (and that is exactly what the large majority of amateurs are today, code tapping appliance users.) In all your rants I see no real reasons for maintaining the CW requirement. In fact, when you are hard pressed and under attack, you admit to having your self-centered self at the core of you manipulations. If you think I hate you, I do not. If you think I see you as the most evil person I have ever conversed with, I do not--I have some neighbors much worse. I just don't understand you. And, why that is, is because no one here is attempting to "win" by eliminating morse. We are attempting to win by making amateur radio enticing enough to fill our ranks with new bright minds, something YOU SHOULD place much more importance on. Indeed, CW pales in comparison when viewed side-by-side. Let me leave you with one important "vision" to dwell upon. Next time you are a social event, a cocktail party, a civic function, etc. and you find someone, or some group who is really, really impressed with you being an amateur radio operator--then, right at that time, take a really, really good look at those people who are so all impressed and tell me if it really matters that you impress "those people?" If you say yes, you and I don't even live in the same universe. Regards, JS |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
From: John Smith on Thurs, Nov 30 2006 12:41 pm
wrote: ... Len: Where have you been? These boys have been keeping you entertained, I trust? "Entertained?" :-) Hardly. I took off for three weeks to rid my environment of all the sociopathic meanderthals that inhabit this Din of Inequity. I come back and its like the ghost of Claude Rain's character in the movie "Casablanca" has been whispering to me..."all the usual suspects" have been rounded up and imprisoned in here. :-) It's truly remarkable to see this totally-retro group of frustrated "radio operators" thinking the radio world hasn't changed for 60-70 years...all of them thinking they "know what is right" for a radio hobby...because what They do is absolutely the Best and all should emulate what They do. Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA |
It's a war people, and the lazy asses are trying to take over.
John Smith wrote in
: Slow Code wrote: We dare not let Lenny and the rest of the dumb-it-down crowd win. SC SC: Sometimes I am convinced that you are an excellent "satire comedian." Other times, you have me convinced you are for real. Sometimes you have me busting a gut and laughing until tears come, other times you yank my heart-stings in pity. Take this last post of your, it can be viewed as tongue-in-cheek satire, or, it can be viewed as insane rant. I'm a firm believer in using humor and satire to try to make my point. It's like cracking a walnut with a sledgehammer. Whether or not anyone wants to accept or agree with me, I hope we can all still have a good laugh. I know of no good reasons to maintain any CW requirement in amateur testing. How about, Requiring it in order to be able to communicate with it? That's a good reason and you're learning a skill. Keeping people like Markie off HF doesn't sound too bad either. The first time you hear 'AAAAAAUDIOOOOOOOOOOOOO' or 'skipland skipland skipland' in the middle of 20meters, you'll get a change of heart and will want to beg forgiveness at the Church of Hiram. I heard it a couple times and it made even the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I was already born again. SC |
It's a war people, and the lazy asses are trying to take over.
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Slow Code wrote: We dare not let Lenny and the rest of the dumb-it-down crowd win. SC Sometimes I am convinced that you are an excellent "satire comedian." Other times, you have me convinced you are for real. I jousted with him for a while. It was like trying to stab fog. |
It's a war people, and the lazy asses are trying to take over.
"Sal M. Onella" wrote in
: "John Smith" wrote in message ... Slow Code wrote: We dare not let Lenny and the rest of the dumb-it-down crowd win. SC Sometimes I am convinced that you are an excellent "satire comedian." Other times, you have me convinced you are for real. I jousted with him for a while. It was like trying to stab fog. That was right before you scurried away with your tail between your legs. If it felt like you were stabbing fog, then you were too far gone to understand the argument. Now go diddle with your ATV. SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Paul W. Schleck wrote in
: In .com writes: Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA The member of our team that is finishing the final draft of the Request for Discussion (RFD) agreed to a firm deadline of January 1, 2007. The team has reviewed, and agreed to, prior working drafts of the RFD, as well as submission guidelines for the proposed new newsgroup, so this is just cleanup and tweaking at this point. The submission guidelines were recently posted to misc.test.moderated. We will have an RFD to pass along to the news.announce.newsgroups moderator to crosspost to this newsgroup shortly after January 1st. Moving the discussion period to after Christmas is also desirable in order to have a bigger audience for the RFD, and give everyone ample opportunity to provide feedback free of holiday distractions and time demands. In the meantime, we've been testing the robomoderation software, Secure Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP). Several rec.radio.amateur.policy participants have graciously agreed to send us test submissions, many of which we have approved and posted to misc.test.moderated. At this point, anyone reading this newsgroup is welcome to send us test postings. Send such submissions to: We'll process them as if they were actual submissions to the proposed moderated newsgroup. Anything we approve will be posted to misc.test.moderated, so please don't send anything to that address that you don't want posted to Usenet, or at least add the text "not for publication" or "do not approve." We would be particularly interested in test postings that are PGP signed. Watch this space for further information after the first of the year. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU Good luck with it Paul. I look forward to seeing Markie, Lloydie, Woger, Todd, Steve, Brian, Lenny, U-Know-Who, John, Robert, Jimmie, Scott and all CW test haters and lazy asses put in the dumpster. It will make usenet a much better place. And a real hams can save ham radio from the dumb it downers. Thanks, 73 de Slow Code |
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Slow Code wrote:
Paul W. Schleck wrote in : In .com writes: 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU Good luck with it Paul. I look forward to seeing Markie, Lloydie, Woger, Todd, Steve, Brian, Lenny, U-Know-Who, John, Robert, Jimmie, Scott and all CW test haters and lazy asses put in the dumpster. likely by then the test will be history but why would imagine it it willstop and the rest from posting IF pauls ssytem shuts down one side then the NG will die It will make usenet a much better place. why? And a real hams can save ham radio from the dumb it downers. real Hams have trying to save radio from the dumbed down code welfare type like yourself Thanks, 73 de Slow Code |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Slow Code wrote:
Paul W. Schleck wrote in : In .com writes: Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA The member of our team that is finishing the final draft of the Request for Discussion (RFD) agreed to a firm deadline of January 1, 2007. The team has reviewed, and agreed to, prior working drafts of the RFD, as well as submission guidelines for the proposed new newsgroup, so this is just cleanup and tweaking at this point. The submission guidelines were recently posted to misc.test.moderated. We will have an RFD to pass along to the news.announce.newsgroups moderator to crosspost to this newsgroup shortly after January 1st. Moving the discussion period to after Christmas is also desirable in order to have a bigger audience for the RFD, and give everyone ample opportunity to provide feedback free of holiday distractions and time demands. In the meantime, we've been testing the robomoderation software, Secure Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP). Several rec.radio.amateur.policy participants have graciously agreed to send us test submissions, many of which we have approved and posted to misc.test.moderated. At this point, anyone reading this newsgroup is welcome to send us test postings. Send such submissions to: We'll process them as if they were actual submissions to the proposed moderated newsgroup. Anything we approve will be posted to misc.test.moderated, so please don't send anything to that address that you don't want posted to Usenet, or at least add the text "not for publication" or "do not approve." We would be particularly interested in test postings that are PGP signed. Watch this space for further information after the first of the year. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU Good luck with it Paul. I look forward to seeing Markie, Lloydie, Woger, ....and all CW test haters and lazy asses put in the dumpster. Hey, dumb****, Roger passed 13 wpm CW for his General. Why don't you know what the **** youare talking about before you run your uninformed fat yap? |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
"Not Cocksucker Lloyd" wrote in
ups.com: Slow Code wrote: Paul W. Schleck wrote in : In .com writes: Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA The member of our team that is finishing the final draft of the Request for Discussion (RFD) agreed to a firm deadline of January 1, 2007. The team has reviewed, and agreed to, prior working drafts of the RFD, as well as submission guidelines for the proposed new newsgroup, so this is just cleanup and tweaking at this point. The submission guidelines were recently posted to misc.test.moderated. We will have an RFD to pass along to the news.announce.newsgroups moderator to crosspost to this newsgroup shortly after January 1st. Moving the discussion period to after Christmas is also desirable in order to have a bigger audience for the RFD, and give everyone ample opportunity to provide feedback free of holiday distractions and time demands. In the meantime, we've been testing the robomoderation software, Secure Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP). Several rec.radio.amateur.policy participants have graciously agreed to send us test submissions, many of which we have approved and posted to misc.test.moderated. At this point, anyone reading this newsgroup is welcome to send us test postings. Send such submissions to: We'll process them as if they were actual submissions to the proposed moderated newsgroup. Anything we approve will be posted to misc.test.moderated, so please don't send anything to that address that you don't want posted to Usenet, or at least add the text "not for publication" or "do not approve." We would be particularly interested in test postings that are PGP signed. Watch this space for further information after the first of the year. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU Good luck with it Paul. I look forward to seeing Markie, Lloydie, Woger, ...and all CW test haters and lazy asses put in the dumpster. Hey, dumb****, Roger passed 13 wpm CW for his General. Why don't you know what the **** youare talking about before you run your uninformed fat yap? Shut up, stupid. SC |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Paul W. Schleck wrote: In .com writes: Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA The member of our team that is finishing the final draft of the Request for Discussion (RFD) agreed to a firm deadline of January 1, 2007. The team has reviewed, and agreed to, prior working drafts of the RFD, as well as submission guidelines for the proposed new newsgroup, so this is just cleanup and tweaking at this point. The submission guidelines were recently posted to misc.test.moderated. We will have an RFD to pass along to the news.announce.newsgroups moderator to crosspost to this newsgroup shortly after January 1st. Moving the discussion period to after Christmas is also desirable in order to have a bigger audience for the RFD, and give everyone ample opportunity to provide feedback free of holiday distractions and time demands. In the meantime, we've been testing the robomoderation software, Secure Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP). Several rec.radio.amateur.policy participants have graciously agreed to send us test submissions, many of which we have approved and posted to misc.test.moderated. At this point, anyone reading this newsgroup is welcome to send us test postings. Send such submissions to: We'll process them as if they were actual submissions to the proposed moderated newsgroup. Anything we approve will be posted to misc.test.moderated, so please don't send anything to that address that you don't want posted to Usenet, or at least add the text "not for publication" or "do not approve." We would be particularly interested in test postings that are PGP signed. Watch this space for further information after the first of the year. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key Thank you for the prompt reply. LA |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
Slow Code wrote: "Not Cocksucker Lloyd" wrote in ups.com: Slow Code wrote: Paul W. Schleck wrote in : In .com writes: Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA The member of our team that is finishing the final draft of the Request for Discussion (RFD) agreed to a firm deadline of January 1, 2007. The team has reviewed, and agreed to, prior working drafts of the RFD, as well as submission guidelines for the proposed new newsgroup, so this is just cleanup and tweaking at this point. The submission guidelines were recently posted to misc.test.moderated. We will have an RFD to pass along to the news.announce.newsgroups moderator to crosspost to this newsgroup shortly after January 1st. Moving the discussion period to after Christmas is also desirable in order to have a bigger audience for the RFD, and give everyone ample opportunity to provide feedback free of holiday distractions and time demands. In the meantime, we've been testing the robomoderation software, Secure Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP). Several rec.radio.amateur.policy participants have graciously agreed to send us test submissions, many of which we have approved and posted to misc.test.moderated. At this point, anyone reading this newsgroup is welcome to send us test postings. Send such submissions to: We'll process them as if they were actual submissions to the proposed moderated newsgroup. Anything we approve will be posted to misc.test.moderated, so please don't send anything to that address that you don't want posted to Usenet, or at least add the text "not for publication" or "do not approve." We would be particularly interested in test postings that are PGP signed. Watch this space for further information after the first of the year. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU Good luck with it Paul. I look forward to seeing Markie, Lloydie, Woger, ...and all CW test haters and lazy asses put in the dumpster. Hey, dumb****, Roger passed 13 wpm CW for his General. Why don't you know what the **** youare talking about before you run your uninformed fat yap? Shut up, stupid. What's the matter, Sniveling ****, one more of your lies is exposed? Are you going to pound your cheapassed computer desk? |
Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
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Laziness is no reason to destroy quality radio.
"Not Cocksucker Lloyd" wrote in message ups.com... Slow Code wrote: "Not Cocksucker Lloyd" wrote in ups.com: Slow Code wrote: Paul W. Schleck wrote in : In .com writes: Where is Paul Schleck these days? Here it is 1 December and his "threatening" troika of "moderators" haven't yet appeared. I wonder if he has been appointed to a new cabinet post? You know, the "Department of Hamland Security"... :-) Holiday regards, LA The member of our team that is finishing the final draft of the Request for Discussion (RFD) agreed to a firm deadline of January 1, 2007. The team has reviewed, and agreed to, prior working drafts of the RFD, as well as submission guidelines for the proposed new newsgroup, so this is just cleanup and tweaking at this point. The submission guidelines were recently posted to misc.test.moderated. We will have an RFD to pass along to the news.announce.newsgroups moderator to crosspost to this newsgroup shortly after January 1st. Moving the discussion period to after Christmas is also desirable in order to have a bigger audience for the RFD, and give everyone ample opportunity to provide feedback free of holiday distractions and time demands. In the meantime, we've been testing the robomoderation software, Secure Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP). Several rec.radio.amateur.policy participants have graciously agreed to send us test submissions, many of which we have approved and posted to misc.test.moderated. At this point, anyone reading this newsgroup is welcome to send us test postings. Send such submissions to: We'll process them as if they were actual submissions to the proposed moderated newsgroup. Anything we approve will be posted to misc.test.moderated, so please don't send anything to that address that you don't want posted to Usenet, or at least add the text "not for publication" or "do not approve." We would be particularly interested in test postings that are PGP signed. Watch this space for further information after the first of the year. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU Good luck with it Paul. I look forward to seeing Markie, Lloydie, Woger, ...and all CW test haters and lazy asses put in the dumpster. Hey, dumb****, Roger passed 13 wpm CW for his General. Why don't you know what the **** youare talking about before you run your uninformed fat yap? Shut up, stupid. What's the matter, Sniveling ****, one more of your lies is exposed? Are you going to pound your cheapassed computer desk? No but I think I will pound my pud to some more hot gay porn! |
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