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I opened the meter of an Hallicrafters SX-117 to mechanically adjust the zero.
Once open, the meter appeared to be of the moving iron type, that is with no
moving coil. But I was surprised to see that that meter has no spiral torsion
springs either; I can only see a metal (?) dish mounted on the axis, part of
which lies inside a rather flat coil.

With no spring, I cannot understand what forces the needle to stay at zero scale
in absence of current. Therefore I cannot figure out what I should do to adjust
the zero.

The HT-44 as well as the EICO 723 use the same type of meter. Dumping is poor,
and the needle keeps banging for a while when you apply a DC current.

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Tony I0JX

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Sorry for the OT. I made a mistake, and posted the mesage on the wrong
newsgroup.

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On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:11:44 +0100, "Antonio Vernucci"
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I opened the meter of an Hallicrafters SX-117 to mechanically adjust the zero.
Once open, the meter appeared to be of the moving iron type, that is with no
moving coil. But I was surprised to see that that meter has no spiral torsion
springs either; I can only see a metal (?) dish mounted on the axis, part of
which lies inside a rather flat coil.


Hi Tony,

Consult paragraph 5-5:
http://www.rigpix.com/hallicrafter/sx117_manual.pdf

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Consult paragraph 5-5:
http://www.rigpix.com/hallicrafter/sx117_manual.pdf

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Dick,

you read my question too quckly. I was not referring to the electrical
adjustment (there is a potentiometer just for that) but to the mechanical
adjustment.

In a properly maintained radio, the meter should stay at zero even when the
radio is off. That is the reason for the mechanical adustment.

73

Tony I0JX

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On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:19:15 +0100, "Antonio Vernucci"
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you read my question too quckly. I was not referring to the electrical
adjustment (there is a potentiometer just for that) but to the mechanical
adjustment.


Hi Tony,

From paragraph 5-5 "The Meter Zero control may be found directly under
the rear of the meter housing."

73's
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Hi Tony,

From paragraph 5-5 "The Meter Zero control may be found directly under
the rear of the meter housing."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Again Dick, I have adjusted that control many times and any SX-117 owner knows
that that contriol exists.

I am instead trying to adjust the mechanical zero which has nothing to do with
the control under the rear of the meter housing. Do you appreciate the
difference?

Tony I0JX

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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:49:08 +0100, "Antonio Vernucci"
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Do you appreciate the difference?


Hi Tony,

Nope.

The meter is always in a condition where current is flowing given that
it shares the cathode load. Paragraph 5-5 says quite clearly how to
set zero for a zero signal condition. Basically, the design reveals
an admission that there is no "zero" in the first place (merely a
minimum).

Aside from that, there is no need to be concerned about a meter
reading for a receiver that is turned off. In short, any attempt to
force a mechanical zero would be negated by the "electrical zero" set
and S-9 calibration.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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