A Moment To Appeciate a Good Thing.
 

I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank you,
FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella

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John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank you,
FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like plunging
into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene that has
never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will not get
all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art

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"art" wrote in
ups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing, estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible hobby.


Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank you!


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....

a menoent to try and end follishness
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:37:18 -0600, Mike Coslo
wrote:

"art" wrote in
oups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence
since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing,
estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also
contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including
public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the
country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle
extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

I wasted % year not manging it mike I am gald you had a choice I did
not

I also get tired of the cripple chaste BS I am crippled could do
theefore anybody could code testing is dead can we let bashing people
as lazy die with it?

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever
found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible
hobby.

no cheating here

Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank
you!

SC is abd ham if a ham at all and KB7ADL is foolish one wether he is
SC or not


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....

Moaning Mark will soon be moaning in ecstacy over the elimination of CW as a
licensing requirement, if he is not already.
I welcome the new users to the HF frequencies providing they comport
themselves well. The first time I hear an idiot no-coder using an echo box
or telling someone, "ten-roger", I am going to speak up.
As for my previous offer to meet Mork on 17 meters? Consider it rescinded.

There is another *plus* to this new rule change in that this will give Woger
that many more stations to jam. Tune up your rigs, Wabbit. There is a whole
new flock of newbies in the wings who are ripe and ready for your brand of
harrassment.

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Mike Coslo wrote:
"art" wrote in
ups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing, estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible hobby.


Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank you!


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....
I PUNCE

a menoent to try and end follishness PUNCE
 

Ron wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:37:18 -0600, Mike Coslo
wrote:

"art" wrote in
oups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence
since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing,
estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also
contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including
public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the
country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle
extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

I wasted % year not manging it mike I am gald you had a choice I did
not

I also get tired of the cripple chaste BS I am crippled could do
theefore anybody could code testing is dead can we let bashing people
as lazy die with it?

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever
found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible
hobby.

no cheating here

Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank
you!

SC is abd ham if a ham at all and KB7ADL is foolish one wether he is
SC or not


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....

Moaning Mark will soon be moaning in ecstacy over the elimination of CW as a
licensing requirement, if he is not already.
I welcome the new users to the HF frequencies providing they comport
themselves well. The first time I hear an idiot no-coder using an echo box
or telling someone, "ten-roger", I am going to speak up.
As for my previous offer to meet Mork on 17 meters? Consider it rescinded.

There is another *plus* to this new rule change in that this will give Woger
that many more stations to jam. Tune up your rigs, Wabbit. There is a whole
new flock of newbies in the wings who are ripe and ready for your brand of
harrassment.
I PUNCE

A Moment To Appeciate a Good Thing.
 

"art" wrote in message
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snip

the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art


Thank you, sir.

John

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Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.

Thanks,

Bill, W6WRT

what good thing
 

Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
36:



I apologized for disturbing you fine people. The issue has been decided,
now we live with it. Where we have problems, we do what good hams do, we
work together to solve the problems. That's all that there is left to say
about it.

73

KB7ADL, formerly Slow Code

you planing on leaving the ARS as you promised?

or anything about apolgizing for your calls to throw half the ars off
the air

or...?

I could go on but my point is made

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Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:

I apologized for disturbing you fine people. The issue has been decided,
now we live with it. Where we have problems, we do what good hams do, we
work together to solve the problems. That's all that there is left to say
about it.

73

KB7ADL, formerly Slow Code


I pity you.

JS

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"Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" wrote in
:

I apologized for disturbing you fine people. The issue has been
decided, now we live with it. Where we have problems, we do what
good hams do, we work together to solve the problems. That's all that
there is left to say about it.


You don't write that kind of stuff without believing in it at some level.
I'm just a 5wpm extra, so I'll not pain you to further descend to my
menial level any more. If you ever come to a club meeting that I'm at, let
me know, and I'll give you my seat. Out of pity.

buh-bye! Mike KB3EIA -

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Mike Coslo wrote:
"art" wrote in
ups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before.

What planet are you from? It's all been seen before.

Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.

Are you one of the "pioneers" giving signal reports on 500KHz?

Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing, estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

Finally we agree on somthing Morse related.

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

Mike, 2007 IS soon in ham years.

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible hobby.


Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well.

That Code Exam sure did let a lot of bozos into the service.

However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank you!


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....

Best of Luck.

A Moment To Appeciate a Good Thing.
 

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John Smith wrote:
wrote:
...
What planet are you from? It's all been seen before.
...

It ain't been seen 'til I see it!

Regards,
JS

Maybe. Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. I've never seen it, don't
want to. No one I know has ever seen it. No one I know wants to see
it. But you can go see it if you want.

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Hey Slow,
You're a good guy. I finally realize you have a message,
maybe something along the lines of what "The Old Man" did 90 years ago.
Most only saw what you wrote on the surface, but I finally
was trying to read a level below that to see what your real message
was. Then last Friday things all changed.

So Slow Code, Old Buddy, this being an antenna newsgroup, what kind
of antenna do you use out there in 7 land?

73 OB,

Rick K2XT

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"John Smith" wrote in message
...
wrote:
...
What planet are you from? It's all been seen before.
...

It ain't been seen 'til I see it!

AMEN!!!!!

"It's all been seen before" is just bunkum. My PSK31 cables are new to me.
My EME dish is new to me.

Fortunately, nobody gets a lock on first-time discoveries in this hobby. My
pulling a QSO out of the noise today is just as much a thrill for me as it
is for another half-million or so hams when they do it.

I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be -- and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.

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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
...

I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be -- and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.


Speaking of legal, when I'm doing low-power antenna tests for matching,
what's the protocol for ID'ing? My antenna experience is limited to FM,
where I easily ID through the mike with one hand while twiddling the SWR
meter with the other.

However, if I steady-key on HF to measure VSWR, I obviously can't ID; if I
use voice, the needle's bouncing.

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
...

I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be --
and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.


Speaking of legal, when I'm doing low-power antenna tests for matching,
what's the protocol for ID'ing? My antenna experience is limited to FM,
where I easily ID through the mike with one hand while twiddling the SWR
meter with the other.

However, if I steady-key on HF to measure VSWR, I obviously can't ID; if I
use voice, the needle's bouncing.

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

It's not a matter of what we tolerate. It is a matter of FCC rules. Even a
test transmission (including tune-up) must conclude with an ID. So you
tune, then ID.

Dee, N8UZE

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From FCC Part 97

(b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere
in this Part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


(1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;
§97.119 Station identification.
(a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station,
must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end
of each communication, and at least every ten minutes during a
communication, for the purpose of clearly making the source of the
transmissions from the station known to those receiving the transmissions.

So you have 10 minutes before u need ID

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
...

I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be --
and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.


Speaking of legal, when I'm doing low-power antenna tests for matching,
what's the protocol for ID'ing? My antenna experience is limited to FM,
where I easily ID through the mike with one hand while twiddling the SWR
meter with the other.

However, if I steady-key on HF to measure VSWR, I obviously can't ID; if I
use voice, the needle's bouncing.

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

A Moment To Appeciate a Good Thing.
 

"So you have 10 minutes before u need ID "

This is true, but I always begin and end a tuning or test transmission
with "N3OX TESTING" in fast CW.

It will make those who hear your 1W loud and clear happier. They'll
know someone is running tests instead of just sitting on their key.

Dan

A Moment To Appeciate a Good Thing.
 

Agree -- tis good practice but not required by the FCC Rules -- CL

wrote in message
ups.com...
"So you have 10 minutes before u need ID "

This is true, but I always begin and end a tuning or test transmission
with "N3OX TESTING" in fast CW.

It will make those who hear your 1W loud and clear happier. They'll
know someone is running tests instead of just sitting on their key.

Dan

A Moment To Appeciate a Good Thing.
 

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
. ..

"Sal M. Onella"

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

It's not a matter of what we tolerate. It is a matter of FCC rules. Even
a
test transmission (including tune-up) must conclude with an ID. So you
tune, then ID.

Got it. Thanks to all who responded.