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How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

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"art" wrote in message
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How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


I don't know about the Coreolis force but most Aussie TV's are made in the
Northern hemisphere. In fact I don't think any TV's are made in Australia.

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On 18 Feb, 15:20, "Mike" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

ps.com...

How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

I don't know about the Coreolis force but most Aussie TV's are made in the
Northern hemisphere. In fact I don't think any TV's are made in Australia.

Mike I have now cleared the snow away so I have no excuse to day dream
while I get my strength back so I must now finish with this thread.
I pointed out earlier the relationships between curl and Faradays
rotation
where Faraday used a light and a electrical magnet to measure
polarization angle and where I connect it to curl is similar but time
variable related.
The corriolis forces are also connected but more specifically to the
earths magnetic field and where water revolves in different directions
depending on the hemisphere that you are in. With the television
addition I was looking at the magnetic yoke with the above in mind
which would suggest that what is in equilibrium in the northern
hemisphere would not be in equilibrium in the Southern hemisphere.
Since I know nothing about TVs that is all speculation on my part. Bye
Bye
Art

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"art" wrote in message
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On 18 Feb, 15:20, "Mike" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

ps.com...

How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

I don't know about the Coreolis force but most Aussie TV's are made in
the
Northern hemisphere. In fact I don't think any TV's are made in
Australia.

Mike I have now cleared the snow away so I have no excuse to day dream
while I get my strength back so I must now finish with this thread.
I pointed out earlier the relationships between curl and Faradays
rotation
where Faraday used a light and a electrical magnet to measure
polarization angle and where I connect it to curl is similar but time
variable related.
The corriolis forces are also connected but more specifically to the
earths magnetic field and where water revolves in different directions
depending on the hemisphere that you are in. With the television
addition I was looking at the magnetic yoke with the above in mind
which would suggest that what is in equilibrium in the northern
hemisphere would not be in equilibrium in the Southern hemisphere.
Since I know nothing about TVs that is all speculation on my part. Bye
Bye
Art


Left hand rule is the same in both hemispheres.

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In the southern hemisphere, the TV deflection yokes are wound in the
opposite direction. This of course results in a reversal of the normal
flow of current through the gun assembly. While in the northern
hemisphere, the CRT contains three "electron guns" which shoot electrons
toward the phosphor screen, in Australia they use a TRC which has three
"hole targets" instead. The screen emits holes which are deflected by
the anti-yoke, or ekoy, and routed to the appropriate color hole target.
The hole targets are, of course, magenta, cyan, and yellow rather than
red, green, and blue as they are in the northern hemisphere, and their
filaments must be cooled rather than heated.

The scan lines in the southern hemisphere also proceed from right to
left, bottom to top, but that's another topic. . .

An' that's nothin' but the dinkum truth, mate!

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

art wrote:
On 18 Feb, 15:20, "Mike" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

ps.com...

How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?
I don't know about the Coreolis force but most Aussie TV's are made in the
Northern hemisphere. In fact I don't think any TV's are made in Australia.

Mike I have now cleared the snow away so I have no excuse to day dream
while I get my strength back so I must now finish with this thread.
I pointed out earlier the relationships between curl and Faradays
rotation
where Faraday used a light and a electrical magnet to measure
polarization angle and where I connect it to curl is similar but time
variable related.
The corriolis forces are also connected but more specifically to the
earths magnetic field and where water revolves in different directions
depending on the hemisphere that you are in. With the television
addition I was looking at the magnetic yoke with the above in mind
which would suggest that what is in equilibrium in the northern
hemisphere would not be in equilibrium in the Southern hemisphere.
Since I know nothing about TVs that is all speculation on my part. Bye
Bye
Art

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Oh, nicely done, sir, nicely done !!!

Jim




"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...

An' that's nothin' but the dinkum truth, mate!

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

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On Feb 18, 5:14 pm, "art" wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

Um... The effect you are talking about doesn't have anything to do
with the relationship between magnetic fields and electric fields. It
has to do with the difference in surface speeds between the poles and
the equator and how that difference interacts with various fluids. In
the Northern Hemisphere as these fluids move southward, they will be
seen to swing to the west because the earth is spinning towards the
east under them.

So... If one had a US TV in Australia, then it would work exactly like
it did in the US. (Voltage, frequency and video format aside.)

-= KC4UAI =-

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art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

.... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.

JS

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On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

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On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

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On 19 Feb, 13:52, "art" wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

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On 19 Feb, 13:52, "art" wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

If an Aussi stepped in some deep mud and sank thru all the way
to the U.S his feet would come out first and you want him to
demonstrate the right hand rule while standing on his head !!!!
Art

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KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern
hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or,
force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only
be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more
is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

JS

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"art" wrote in message
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How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


radiation doesn't curl, fields do, and coreolis force is ficticious, you can
counteract it by placing your canoe paddles at right angles to the direction
of motion as you circle a whirlpool in your boat. as for tv's, everyone
knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on tv's when you cross the
equator, if you don't all the colors come out wrong and the pictures are all
upside down.

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"Dave" wrote in news:zEpCh.5004$lo1.4362@trndny05:

for tv's, everyone knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on
tv's when you cross the equator, if you don't all the colors come out
wrong and the pictures are all upside down.

You can't rick Art like that, he will be well aware that we in the southern
hemisphere are upside down relative to you guys, so compensating for the
effect you describe.

Owen

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John Smith I wrote:
KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

Irrelevant.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern
hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or,
force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

For real, normal, manufactured sinks, toilets, and bathtubs, this is not true.

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only
be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more
is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

In a perfectly smooth, level, and symetrical sink filled with absolutely
still water, it will always go the same way and this is trivially explained
by the corriolis effect.

For real world sinks, the deviations from perfect smoothness, levelness, and
symmetry overpowers the corriolis effect and the water goes which ever
way dominates from the imperfections.

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

Or one could get an education in basic physics.

The physical world is within the realm of understanding for at least
50% of the population.

I guess you are in the bottom half.

http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99107.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

--
Jim Pennino

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John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.

This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.

--
Jim Pennino

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Jimmie D wrote:

...
I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.



Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS

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"John Smith I" wrote in message
...
KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern hemisphere
the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or, force/contrivance
can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this happens
or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only be
guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more is
known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

JS

I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.

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On 19 Feb, 15:21, Owen Duffy wrote:
"Dave" wrote innews:zEpCh.5004$lo1.4362@trndny05:

for tv's, everyone knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on
tv's when you cross the equator, if you don't all the colors come out
wrong and the pictures are all upside down.

You can't rick Art like that, he will be well aware that we in the southern
hemisphere are upside down relative to you guys, so compensating for the
effect you describe.

Owen

Quit it Owen, I'm sitting in the stands watching the play go
backwards and forwards and giggling all the time. It is like asking
the capital of Kentucky, is it louavle or Louyvill and the longer it
goes on the funnier it will be so please stay quiet
Thanks

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I did. Actually, I got a masters in it. In the words of one of my more
brilliant professors, "You suck hind tit".

Jim


Or one could get an education in basic physics.

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John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.

This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water
taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current
hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the
intelligence to see this obvious fact.

Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?

snip remaining babble

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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive
ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not
enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave
Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with
water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its'
current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would
lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact.

Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?


In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.

For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large
and long lasting fluid motion.

Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all
if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


In a recent email to an acquaintance of mine who lives in Australia I
asked him what the action of draining water was down under. His reply
was that results were mixed with some drains turning counter clockwise
and some drains turning clockwise. Sometimes it was the same drain.

It seems the jury is still out on the subject.

Dave WD9BDZ

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On 20 Feb, 07:26, "David G. Nagel" wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive
ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not
enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave
Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.

It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with
water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its'
current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would
lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact.

Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?

In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.

For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large
and long lasting fluid motion.

Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all
if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

In a recent email to an acquaintance of mine who lives in Australia I
asked him what the action of draining water was down under. His reply
was that results were mixed with some drains turning counter clockwise
and some drains turning clockwise. Sometimes it was the same drain.

It seems the jury is still out on the subject.

Dave WD9BDZ- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Gentlemen, gentlemen calm down
Let us l;ook at how this myth came about

A gentleman obtained a glass container and filled it with water.
To make sure every thing was kosha he placed a school clock over the
container of water and then called his friend down under to
corroborate the experiment. Being a friedly man he descided to place
the clock under the container so the man down under could also see the
clock. He then pulled the plug and watched as the water circled
clockwise and then asked the man down under which way did the water go
and to his surprise the Aussi said counter clockwise!
Now stop this foolishnes and consider what Roy said about Aussi T.V.
He stated that the yoke on the CRT was wound in an opposite way to
T.V.s in the upper hemisphere so why not consider the implications of
that and let the past be seen as water under the bridge
Art

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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:26:23 -0600, "David G. Nagel"
wrote:

It seems the jury is still out on the subject.

Given the correspondence, one juror is holding out for acquittal, and
Madame LeFarge is cackling in the court room.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water
taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current
hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the
intelligence to see this obvious fact.

Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?


In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.

For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and
long lasting fluid motion.

Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if
we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)

It is a matter of scale.

The coriolis effect is weak and directly a function of distance.

Water in a sink is a tiny distance and the effect is miniscule.

On huge things like weather fronts, the coriolis effect is quite obvious.

Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the effect.


--
Jim Pennino

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To bring antennas into the discussion:
Many years ago when a grad student working in the vicinity of, and
eating at the same table with, Grote Reber, he noted that the bean plant
wound itself in the opposite direction in Tasmania than in the US. (We
never left the meat plate in his vicinity.) While constructing new
instrumentation to measure low frequency radiation from space (housed in
beautiful cabinets that he made) using an antenna with directivity
determined by the relative thinness of the ionosphere in Tasmania, he tended
bean plants that he caused to grow the wrong way.
He published papers on the subject in 1960 and 1964. As I recall, one
finding was that yields increased if beans were caused to do what they do
not want to do.

So, at least two things arise from this: plants can do different things
in the two hemispheres and the ionosphere is "different" in the two
hemispheres.

The like of Grote the world is not likely to see again. His ability to
see significance in well known things was awesome. It only he had had a
publicist, he would have received a Nobel prize.

73, Mac N8TT

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It is a matter of scale.

The coriolis effect is weak and directly a function of distance.

Water in a sink is a tiny distance and the effect is miniscule.

On huge things like weather fronts, the coriolis effect is quite obvious.

Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the effect.


--
Jim Pennino

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"John Smith I" wrote in message
...
Jimmie D wrote:

...
I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.

Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS

Cant prove it to nobody but myself, kitchen sink is a double and it is
different in both sinks. Please tell just which way you think it spins in
the northern hemisphere.

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Jimmie D wrote:
"John Smith I" wrote in message
...
Jimmie D wrote:

...
I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.
Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS

Cant prove it to nobody but myself, kitchen sink is a double and it is
different in both sinks. Please tell just which way you think it spins in
the northern hemisphere.


Your location is obviously directly on the equator, and the "line"
passes directly between the double sinks.

Ain't science wunnerful? ;^)

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:13:10 -0500, "Jimmie D"
wrote:


"John Smith I" wrote in message
...
Jimmie D wrote:

...
I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.

Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS

Cant prove it to nobody but myself, kitchen sink is a double and it is
different in both sinks. Please tell just which way you think it spins in
the northern hemisphere.

Perhaps it is time for all of us with flush toilets to activate the
them and report back?
John Ferrell W8CCW

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Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the
effect.

Cool - I didn't know that! It does stand to reason, giving the distances
and velocities involved.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

As do ICBM's. Coreolis is alive and well and real!

W4ZCB

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John Smith I wrote:
I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ...

Here's what I was taught. In the Northern Hemisphere,
the Northernmost point in a body of water at rest is
moving slower than the Southernmost point. Consider
that the ocean water at the poles travels pi*zero miles
every 24 hours while the water at the equator travels
pi*8000 miles, i.e. about 1000 miles per hour. The extra
velocity of the Southernmost molecules is what gives the
counter-clockwise rotation of a fluid in the Northern
Hemisphere. In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southernmost
molecules are moving the fastest resulting in a clockwise
rotation.
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73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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On Feb 22, 10:36 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ...

Here's what I was taught. In the Northern Hemisphere,
the Northernmost point in a body of water at rest is
moving slower than the Southernmost point. Consider
that the ocean water at the poles travels pi*zero miles
every 24 hours while the water at the equator travels
pi*8000 miles, i.e. about 1000 miles per hour. The extra
velocity of the Southernmost molecules is what gives the
counter-clockwise rotation of a fluid in the Northern
Hemisphere. In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southernmost
molecules are moving the fastest resulting in a clockwise
rotation.
--
73, Cecil,http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Sounds about like what my HS physics teacher told me, works great for
hurricains doesnt do a thing for toilet drains .(|:))