Mobile antenna Placement
 

What is the minimum distance for a 11 meter antenna and a 10 meter
antenna--both mobile?

Fred Wall
NF8W

Mobile antenna Placement
 

David wrote:
What is the minimum distance for a 11 meter antenna and a 10 meter
antenna--both mobile?

Fred Wall
NF8W


Half a wave length....
Dave WD9BDZ

Mobile antenna Placement
 

David G. Nagel wrote:
David wrote:
What is the minimum distance for a 11 meter antenna and a 10 meter
antenna--both mobile?

Fred Wall
NF8W

Half a wave length....
Dave WD9BDZ

That's a positive and unqualified response. So I'm curious -- how did
you arrive at that figure?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Mobile antenna Placement
 

Roy Lewallen wrote:
David G. Nagel wrote:
David wrote:
What is the minimum distance for a 11 meter antenna and a 10 meter
antenna--both mobile?

Fred Wall
NF8W

Half a wave length....
Dave WD9BDZ

That's a positive and unqualified response. So I'm curious -- how did
you arrive at that figure?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
Just recently looked it up in the ARRL 2006 Handbook.

Dave

Mobile antenna Placement
 

What is the minimum distance for a 11 meter antenna and a 10 meter
antenna--both mobile?

Fred Wall
NF8W

Half a wave length....
Dave WD9BDZ

That's a positive and unqualified response. So I'm curious -- how did
you arrive at that figure?
Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Just recently looked it up in the ARRL 2006 Handbook.

Dave

One might ask, minimum for what? Coupling between antennas so that
the receiver of one radio isn't destroyed by the other? That would
depend on the power outputs and the receiver input power limit.
Interaction so that the pattern isn't affected? Aside from patterns
on mobile installations not being particularly normal anyway, it would
depend on what's connected to the feedpoint of the "parasitic"
antenna. And, is that a free space half wavelength or far enough that
the phase of the near field has flipped 180 degrees?

And, as a practical matter, taking a sort of average, half a
wavelength is about 5 1/4 meters or 17-18 ft. That's a fair distance
apart for most cars.


So, let's surmise some practical details and try and help Fred out..
Say he wants to avoid putting more than 1 Volt RMS into the receiver,
and he wants to use 100W on his 10m rig. Let's not worry about tuning
precisely or grotty details of the car.. just 2 vertical monopoles 2.5
m long, 2 meters apart, with a 50 ohm load on one, and the source on
the other.

With 100W (about 60Volts and about 1.7 A into the 36 ohm Z), you'll
get 24 volts across the 50 ohm load. That'll probably cook it. Even
if you ran 1 Watt, you'd get about 2.4 V... So 2m is a bit close if
you want to run 100W.

Mobile antenna Placement
 

Thank you for the specs...i am concerned about the radiation pattern of the
"driven antenna" or the antenna of the radio I am using at that moment...i
will never use both at the same time. I am looking to make them as
omnidirectional as possible. I seem to remember somthing about a firgure 8
configuration. (I used to know this stuff, but I have forgotten it.)
Note: there is a half-wave two meter antenna present as well.
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What is the minimum distance for a 11 meter antenna and a 10 meter
antenna--both mobile?

Fred Wall
NF8W

Half a wave length....
Dave WD9BDZ

That's a positive and unqualified response. So I'm curious -- how did
you arrive at that figure?
Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Just recently looked it up in the ARRL 2006 Handbook.

Dave

One might ask, minimum for what? Coupling between antennas so that
the receiver of one radio isn't destroyed by the other? That would
depend on the power outputs and the receiver input power limit.
Interaction so that the pattern isn't affected? Aside from patterns
on mobile installations not being particularly normal anyway, it would
depend on what's connected to the feedpoint of the "parasitic"
antenna. And, is that a free space half wavelength or far enough that
the phase of the near field has flipped 180 degrees?

And, as a practical matter, taking a sort of average, half a
wavelength is about 5 1/4 meters or 17-18 ft. That's a fair distance
apart for most cars.


So, let's surmise some practical details and try and help Fred out..
Say he wants to avoid putting more than 1 Volt RMS into the receiver,
and he wants to use 100W on his 10m rig. Let's not worry about tuning
precisely or grotty details of the car.. just 2 vertical monopoles 2.5
m long, 2 meters apart, with a 50 ohm load on one, and the source on
the other.

With 100W (about 60Volts and about 1.7 A into the 36 ohm Z), you'll
get 24 volts across the 50 ohm load. That'll probably cook it. Even
if you ran 1 Watt, you'd get about 2.4 V... So 2m is a bit close if
you want to run 100W.