Looked up an article on google called Four square antenna experiences
and to my amazement I found that one of Roy's close friends had
claimed
on his behalf that the four square antenna can be attributed to him.
I waited a while for what Roy had to say because certainly was an
achievement,
if true. Roy did not deny or enlargen on the achievement so I started
to dig for myself.
The above article was the first I came across and it precedes Roys
article in the antenna compendium by some thirty years. As expected
Roy still remains silent taking things on the chin in his normal shy
way.How many other things did he invent before the government released
antenna computor programs to the public and yet still stayed quiet? Is
there still a chance for a Nobel prize for other achievements not
declared?.
Art

On Mar 1, 10:28 pm, "art" wrote:
Looked up an article on google called Four square antenna experiences
and to my amazement I found that one of Roy's close friends had
claimed
on his behalf that the four square antenna can be attributed to him.
I waited a while for what Roy had to say because certainly was an
achievement,
if true. Roy did not deny or enlargen on the achievement so I started
to dig for myself.
The above article was the first I came across and it precedes Roys
article in the antenna compendium by some thirty years. As expected
Roy still remains silent taking things on the chin in his normal shy
way.How many other things did he invent before the government released
antenna computor programs to the public and yet still stayed quiet? Is
there still a chance for a Nobel prize for other achievements not
declared?.
Art



Are you writing a book? I'm sure glad I don't feel it nessesary to
worry
about what other people do, did, or will do.
That's no way to live. Will land you in the rubber room after a while.
I don't think Roy has ever claimed to invent the antenna. If I'm not
mistaken, his work was more in the proper phasing of the elements.
Would this bother you in some way?
MK

On 2 Mar, 13:18, wrote:
On Mar 1, 10:28 pm, "art" wrote:





Looked up an article on google called Four square antenna experiences
and to my amazement I found that one of Roy's close friends had
claimed
on his behalf that the four square antenna can be attributed to him.
I waited a while for what Roy had to say because certainly was an
achievement,
if true. Roy did not deny or enlargen on the achievement so I started
to dig for myself.
The above article was the first I came across and it precedes Roys
article in the antenna compendium by some thirty years. As expected
Roy still remains silent taking things on the chin in his normal shy
way.How many other things did he invent before the government released
antenna computor programs to the public and yet still stayed quiet? Is
there still a chance for a Nobel prize for other achievements not
declared?.
Art

Are you writing a book? I'm sure glad I don't feel it nessesary to
worry
about what other people do, did, or will do.
That's no way to live. Will land you in the rubber room after a while.
I don't think Roy has ever claimed to invent the antenna. If I'm not
mistaken, his work was more in the proper phasing of the elements.
Would this bother you in some way?
MK- Hide quoted text -

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I am just responding to a claim maid on his behalf on another thread.
Actually I learned by looking things up, basically the truth.
And how are you today?
Art

art wrote:
I am just responding to a claim maid on his behalf ...

Is that maid related to the wench I saw for sale
over on rec.radio.swap? :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Would that be an end wench, a box wench, or a crescent wench?

Jim



"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
art wrote:
I am just responding to a claim maid on his behalf ...

Is that maid related to the wench I saw for sale
over on rec.radio.swap? :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

On Mar 2, 3:27 pm, "art" wrote:


I am just responding to a claim maid on his behalf on another thread.
Actually I learned by looking things up, basically the truth.
And how are you today?
Art


I'm running around like a three peckered lizard.. I've been
constantly
dealing with medical people, as my mother has had two strokes,
and has been in a nursing facility. Just this week I had to
fire her HMO, and get her back on regular medicare.. What a farce...
This was in order to get her back in the hospital for a needed
checkout. Finally got her in yesterday. I've got to run to her
nursing home to pick up clothes, and then take them over to
the hospital. Then I've got to see if the people that just sold me
a car have my license plates yet. I bet they flake out, and make
me wait til monday.. They expire 12 am monday morning.
I have to drive to Oklahoma tonight to look at two properties. I'll
be leaving about 10 pm tonight, drive to Eufaula OK, which
I'll get there about 6 am. Look at that property which is near
the lake. Then I've got to leave there, and drive to just south
of Paris TX, and look at another property there. Then drive
back home.. I won't be sleeping again until tomorrow night..
Then I gotta decide which of the two properties I want..
I'm trading 10 acres I just bought for one of those two most
likely.. They are both 5 acres, but better roads, quality, etc..
I'm kinda leaning to the one on the lake, but will see...
It would be nice to be able to walk to the lake from the
property.. I'll have an easement to the lake too..
Needless to say, antenna chitter chatter is kinda
low on my priorities right now.. Well, gotta go water
myself down in the de-smell chamber, and hit the trail..
No radio chatter in that car...It's a fairly new corolla,
and it's so purty I'm having trouble bringing myself to
drill holes in it. That thing sips the gas.. Just what I
need for these quicky 900 mile road trips..
MK

I've never claimed credit for the four square antenna, and no one makes
claims on my behalf. If anyone, friend or not, is claiming that I am the
originator of the four square antenna, he is in error. As often the
case, I have no idea where Art got his information, but if he will give
the name of this individual and where the alleged misinformation
appears, I'll contact him and tell him the true story of the origin of
the four square, which is as follows.

To my knowledge, its first creator was Dana Atchley, W1CF (now SK), in
association with others. He was certainly the first to give it that
name. Its introduction to the amateur community was "360 degree -
Steerable Vertical Phased Arrays", by Dana W. Atchley, Jr., W1CF, Harold
E. Stinehelfer, ex-W2ZRS, and Joseph F. White, PhD, in April 1976 _QST_.
Certain aspects of the antenna were patented in U.S. Patent 4,123,759
(Hines et al), but no restriction was ever imposed or enforced on the
use of the patented material to my knowledge. The article and patent
promoted the use of Wilkinson power dividers to supply power to the
elements, a method I knew which wouldn't produce the claimed results.
This resulted in my writing a long paper on phased array theory which I
sent to anyone who requested it at for the cost of duplication and
postage. Dana got one of these, and saw the error of using the Wilkinson
feed. The paper ended up being published as a major part of Chapter 8 of
the _ARRL Antenna Book_, where it's been for many years. You'll find the
_QST_ article by Atchley et al referenced at the end of the chapter.

Anyone who has EZNEC, including the demo, of version 3.0 or later (when
the Antenna Notes feature was added), is invited to open the 4square.ez
example file furnished with the program. Once opened, click File, then
Edit Antenna Notes. This will open the Antenna Notes file for the 4
square example antenna. The first sentence is "This popular phased array
was invented by Dany Atchley, W1CF."

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

art wrote:
Looked up an article on google called Four square antenna experiences
and to my amazement I found that one of Roy's close friends had
claimed
on his behalf that the four square antenna can be attributed to him.
I waited a while for what Roy had to say because certainly was an
achievement,
if true. Roy did not deny or enlargen on the achievement so I started
to dig for myself.
The above article was the first I came across and it precedes Roys
article in the antenna compendium by some thirty years. As expected
Roy still remains silent taking things on the chin in his normal shy
way.How many other things did he invent before the government released
antenna computor programs to the public and yet still stayed quiet? Is
there still a chance for a Nobel prize for other achievements not
declared?.
Art