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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:06:09 -0800, Roy Lewallen wrote:

Thanks for the kind words, something too seldom seen here lately.

Long ago, I told Art that I and some others wouldn't pay much attention
to his conjectures unless he posted some quantitative results showing
how his antenna creations were better than any others. He interpreted
this as an attack, and that slowly turned to the hatred you now see. He
dislikes EZNEC, I believe, simply because it's my program. I've
eventually become the personification of the cartel which is out to
belittle and deride him, preventing him from achieving the recognition
he believes he deserves for his revolutionary insights. I'm in no way a
qualified psychologist, but I see a number of similarities between this
and the behavior shown some time ago by Nathan "Chip" Cohen
(Fractenna"), who also considers me to be evil incarnate for much the
same reason. As far as I know, these are the only two people in the
entire world who dislike me this much. I'm afraid that by saying
complimentary things about me, you -- and by association, your program
-- will be joining me on Art's hate list.

I'm sorry to see that some of my postings and comments about EZNEC are
regarded by anyone as advertising, since I don't believe that
advertising is appropriate here. I do naturally use EZNEC as an example
or suggestion when giving an example of how to model something or to
illustrate a point and frequently recommend the free demo, but I don't
believe I've ever suggested that anyone buy EZNEC or that it's
necessarily superior to any other program. In fact, I often give tips on
using NEC-2. I also post corrections when someone says something about
EZNEC's capabilities which isn't true, and to answer questions about it.
I invite anyone who considers what I say about EZNEC to be out of line
to comment -- I'll certainly try to change my level of commentary if
there's general agreement that I've been advertising.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


I'm dismayed at the attitude shown toward Roy on this newsgroup. I've had the
pleasure and privilege of knowing him personally for many years. At one time,
while visiting me in my home in Florida, he personally installed EZNEC on my
computer. After knowing him for this long time I find Roy to be one of the most
helpful, honest, respectful, and friendly persons I've ever known.

IMO, we're fortunate to have him participate on this NG, as he's been a prolific
tutor on the subject, and many have learned from his knowledgeable presentations
and answers to questions many have asked.

Here's cheers to Roy!

Walt, W2DU
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Walter Maxwell wrote in
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IMO, we're fortunate to have him participate on this NG, as he's been
a prolific tutor on the subject, and many have learned from his
knowledgeable presentations and answers to questions many have asked.

Here's cheers to Roy!


Agreed.

Owen
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:10:39 GMT, Walter Maxwell
wrote:

I'm dismayed at the attitude shown toward Roy on this newsgroup. I've had the
pleasure and privilege of knowing him personally for many years. At one time,
while visiting me in my home in Florida, he personally installed EZNEC on my
computer. After knowing him for this long time I find Roy to be one of the most
helpful, honest, respectful, and friendly persons I've ever known.

IMO, we're fortunate to have him participate on this NG, as he's been a prolific
tutor on the subject, and many have learned from his knowledgeable presentations
and answers to questions many have asked.

Here's cheers to Roy!

Walt, W2DU


I'll second that Walt! I too have known Roy for some time and found
him to be one of the most helpful individuals I have ever known.

Danny, K6MHE


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On 10 Mar 2007 13:48:43 -0800, "4nec2" wrote:

Concerning Art's antenne, I am afraid I got lost somehow. Did Art
deliver
me a model and/or AO results. I am not sure anymore, because I
consult
this newsgroup only once each few days.


Hi Arie,

As always, Art has a choice of what to discuss, and it is rarely
technical.

Art could send me his *.ant model file


The world waits in wonder.

Hi Art,

You asked for:
1. Modeling help;
2. Foreign (unamerican) aid;
3. A friendly response;
4. More optimization.

WWAD? (what would Art do?)

Hi Arie,

If you don't confirm his design is the best, then the mist you feel on
your face will not be the fresh Spring dew of early morning. Art may
have to appeal to extra-terrestrials for proof.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Thnak you Roy for a great program and for being the gentleman you are. I
will not forget your kind words to me at Dayton and your resupplying me with
your program after I stupidly lost it in a compuer malfunction.

Roy is "the best" and only an idiot would attack him personally. Roy- don't
pay any attention to this garbage.
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Buck
Fredericksburg, VA


"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
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Thanks for the kind words, something too seldom seen here lately.

Long ago, I told Art that I and some others wouldn't pay much attention
to his conjectures unless he posted some quantitative results showing
how his antenna creations were better than any others. He interpreted
this as an attack, and that slowly turned to the hatred you now see. He
dislikes EZNEC, I believe, simply because it's my program. I've
eventually become the personification of the cartel which is out to
belittle and deride him, preventing him from achieving the recognition
he believes he deserves for his revolutionary insights. I'm in no way a
qualified psychologist, but I see a number of similarities between this
and the behavior shown some time ago by Nathan "Chip" Cohen
(Fractenna"), who also considers me to be evil incarnate for much the
same reason. As far as I know, these are the only two people in the
entire world who dislike me this much. I'm afraid that by saying
complimentary things about me, you -- and by association, your program
-- will be joining me on Art's hate list.

I'm sorry to see that some of my postings and comments about EZNEC are
regarded by anyone as advertising, since I don't believe that
advertising is appropriate here. I do naturally use EZNEC as an example
or suggestion when giving an example of how to model something or to
illustrate a point and frequently recommend the free demo, but I don't
believe I've ever suggested that anyone buy EZNEC or that it's
necessarily superior to any other program. In fact, I often give tips on
using NEC-2. I also post corrections when someone says something about
EZNEC's capabilities which isn't true, and to answer questions about it.
I invite anyone who considers what I say about EZNEC to be out of line
to comment -- I'll certainly try to change my level of commentary if
there's general agreement that I've been advertising.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

4nec2 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, but can anybody inform me what's the problem
between Art and Roy. In every posting of Art, Roy's name (or EZnec) shows
up. Why not mention NecWin+ or Supernec or others ?

I don't know Roy, but when reading his postings I sure think he is a
nice guy. When supplying answers on questions posted in this group,
it's expectable he does some EZnec advertising, because it's a
commercial product. Mostly he also takes the time to tell that there
are other productys around with similar capabilities...

It's a pitty I was not aware of EZnec first few months after I stumbled
over the Nec2 program.

:-(

Arie.





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Craig Buck wrote:
Thnak you Roy for a great program and for being the gentleman you are. I
will not forget your kind words to me at Dayton and your resupplying me with
your program after I stupidly lost it in a compuer malfunction.

Roy is "the best" and only an idiot would attack him personally. Roy- don't
pay any attention to this garbage.


Well, by that logic, just leave us a list of everyone you like--I am
sure we all would be idiots not to like them ...

Ya just gotta love a guy who implements logic as such an art ...

JS
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http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com
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Craig Buck wrote:
. . .Roy- don't
pay any attention to this garbage.


Not to worry. I do care what my family, friends, and people I respect
think of me. But the opinions of people like Art and Chip don't matter
to me in the least. It's their knickers which are knotted, not mine. I'm
glad to be able to serve the function of providing a focus for whatever
demons are tormenting Art, so maybe he'll go a little easier on other folks.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
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Walter Maxwell wrote:
I'm dismayed at the attitude shown toward Roy on this newsgroup.


With all due respect to Roy and his accomplishments,
he did call your own concepts of reflected power by the
name of "gobbledegook" not too long ago. As I remember,
he said the reflected energy just "sloshes around"
between standing wave nodes rather than propagating
as described in your book, "Reflections".
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
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On Mar 11, 7:00 pm, Cecil Moore wrote

damn,
another Saint bites the dust.

Derek.

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