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Good day!
In some of the articles that I'm reading, I keep seeing references to a DC injector use in RF ports. I really don't know what this means and what the DC injectors are used for. The only think that I can think of is for some DC voltage control for a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO). Thank you! |
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"MRW" wrote in message
oups.com... Good day! In some of the articles that I'm reading, I keep seeing references to a DC injector use in RF ports. I really don't know what this means and what the DC injectors are used for. The only think that I can think of is for some DC voltage control for a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO). Thank you! Supplying DC power for a preamplifier or transverter trough the antenna cable for instance. |
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On Apr 2, 11:23 am, "Philo" wrote:
Supplying DC power for a preamplifier or transverter trough the antenna cable for instance. I see. Does this mean that the AC signal going thru the antenna cable is biased with a DC source? Thanks! |
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MRW wrote:
On Apr 2, 11:23 am, "Philo" wrote: Supplying DC power for a preamplifier or transverter trough the antenna cable for instance. I see. Does this mean that the AC signal going thru the antenna cable is biased with a DC source? Thanks! No. It is just two power sources using the same conductor. That is why there are capacitors at each end of the conductor. They permit the rf/ac signal to pass but block the dc from passing. The satellite tv systems use this to tune the block down converters out at the dish antenna. Dave WD9BDZ |
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"David G. Nagel" wrote: The satellite tv systems use this to tune the block down converters out at the dish antenna. Well not quite, Block DownConverters are not "Tuned". They take a Fixed Bandwidth from the Input Frequency, and DownConvert it to an equal Fixed Bandwidth at a lower IF Frequency. Back in the LONG Past era, there were First Generation SAT Receivers that did have the Frequency Selecting Mixer out at the dish, and used an IF of 70Mhz to bring a Single Channel of Wideband FM Tv to the DeModulator in the SetTop Box. This system was universally designed out of the Consumer SAT systems due to Temperature Insability and other problems. The system used today, which is basically Standardized now, have a Low Noise Preamp, feeding a Block Downconverter, (LNB) and feed the total Fixed Bandwidth of the SAT Segment, (500 Mhz) to the SetTop Box at a lower IF Frequency. (900 Mhz - 1400 Mhz approx) They still use DC Bias on Coax Feeds to the LNB's, and these both power the LNB's, and also select the Polarization of the FeedHorn. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
... In article , "David G. Nagel" wrote: The satellite tv systems use this to tune the block down converters out at the dish antenna. Well not quite, Block DownConverters are not "Tuned". They take a Fixed Bandwidth from the Input Frequency, and DownConvert it to an equal Fixed Bandwidth at a lower IF Frequency. Back in the LONG Past era, there were First Generation SAT Receivers that did have the Frequency Selecting Mixer out at the dish, and used an IF of 70Mhz to bring a Single Channel of Wideband FM Tv to the DeModulator in the SetTop Box. This system was universally designed out of the Consumer SAT systems due to Temperature Insability and other problems. The system used today, which is basically Standardized now, have a Low Noise Preamp, feeding a Block Downconverter, (LNB) and feed the total Fixed Bandwidth of the SAT Segment, (500 Mhz) to the SetTop Box at a lower IF Frequency. (900 Mhz - 1400 Mhz approx) They still use DC Bias on Coax Feeds to the LNB's, and these both power the LNB's, and also select the Polarization of the FeedHorn. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ Some satellite dish sets also use a 22 kHz signal to switch between 2 local oscillators in a "dual band" LNB. |
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On Apr 2, 8:09 am, "MRW" wrote:
Good day! In some of the articles that I'm reading, I keep seeing references to a DC injector use in RF ports. I really don't know what this means and what the DC injectors are used for. The only think that I can think of is for some DC voltage control for a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO). Thank you! Besides the use Philo mentioned, such beasts are also used with network analyzers to inject a DC voltage (or current) to bias a device that's being tested. For example, if you want to use a network analyzer to look at the impedance of a varicap diode, or just to characterize the capacitance versus reverse voltage of an ordinary diode, you need a way to put a controlled DC bias on the diode. They typically consist of an RF choke to feed the DC onto the output connector, and a blocking capacitor to keep the RF input from shorting out the DC. Cheers, Tom |
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![]() "MRW" wrote in message oups.com... Good day! In some of the articles that I'm reading, I keep seeing references to a DC injector use in RF ports They are often referred to as Bias Tee's and are usually found under that name in manufacturers catalogs. |
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![]() "Alfred Lorona" wrote in message ... "MRW" wrote in message oups.com... Good day! In some of the articles that I'm reading, I keep seeing references to a DC injector use in RF ports They are often referred to as Bias Tee's and are usually found under that name in manufacturers catalogs. OFF TRACK: Funny ... I'm 64 and I have heard about bias tee's numerous times but did not know what they were. I just called them power adders. In fact, years ago I made one for a microwave transverter somebody gave me. Now, I kid you not, I was reading a tech manual *today* and it included a diagram/purpose of a bias tee. What are the odds of getting the same tech fact twice in the same day from two independent sources after 50 years of playing with 'trons? |
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