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Dave (from the UK) April 30th 07 12:01 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


--
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art April 30th 07 12:24 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
On 29 Apr, 16:01, "Dave (from the UK)" see-my-signat...@southminster-
branch-line.org.uk wrote:
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf(7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/- a Free open-source Chess Database


I suspect that could happen if the book was out of print or a new
edition was being offered.
Art


Cecil Moore[_2_] April 30th 07 03:08 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)


This is great, Dave. Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239. Kraus shows a ~3 degree phase shift all up and
down the antenna. EZNEC shows the same thing. Now how did
Roy use this current to determine the phase shift through
a loading coil if it cannot be used to determine the phase
shift through a wire?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

P.Gregory April 30th 07 04:09 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
That is a credit to that guy , thumbs up from me :-) ....
"Dave (from the UK)"
wrote in message ...
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/ - a Free open-source Chess Database




Jimmie D April 30th 07 04:24 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)


This is great, Dave. Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239. Kraus shows a ~3 degree phase shift all up and
down the antenna. EZNEC shows the same thing. Now how did
Roy use this current to determine the phase shift through
a loading coil if it cannot be used to determine the phase
shift through a wire?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.

Jimmie



Paul E. Cater April 30th 07 04:38 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


Dave,

Thank you so much for this post. I had the pleasure of attending some
of his classes. As you Brits say, "outstanding chap!"

Paul
WD8OSU


David Ryeburn April 30th 07 06:40 AM

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In article ,
"Jimmie D" wrote:

A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.


I don't know whether you can do this on a Windows computer, but I have
been copying text, as well as pictures, from PDF files with my Macs for
about as long as there have been PDF files. But to copy text, there has
to *BE* text. The Kraus book PDF file, which I have just downloaded,
consists of 568 pages of (scanned) pictures.

One can select, as a picture, any portion (or all) of any one page, copy
it, and paste it into a document in a graphics program. I just did this
with one page of the Kraus "Antennas" book. Such files can be pretty big
-- one page produced a 16.2 MB TIFF file which is more than twice as
large as the entire PDF file for the Kraus "Antennas" book -- but quite
compressible (I compressed that page, losslessly, to 173 kB).

In retirement, for fun and profit, I've been doing pre-publication
debugging (for publishers) of math texts written by others. When I
receive manuscripts, these are usually sent as PDF files from scans of
the actual paper pages produced by the authors. (Paper is used since
often scanners, scissors, and Scotch tape are used to produce some of
the material in Edition (N + 1) from pages from Edition N.) As such, the
files are enormous (thank goodness for a DSL Internet connection) and
not searchable -- there's not a single word in such a file, just a
succession of pictures, one page at a time. Later in the editing and
revision process, I receive PDF files made from TeX files produced by
the typesetters which, except for errors needing to be corrected, are
ready to print. These files, much smaller than the scanned manuscript
files, are searchable, and I can find a word in a few seconds -- much
nicer than eyeballing my way through hundreds of sheets of paper, which
is the way I did it in the old days ten years ago. At this stage of the
game, I can copy and paste text, and I do a lot of that to construct my
reports which get sent back to the authors and editors. Needless to say,
the reports get sent as PDF files, and the nice thing is that Mac- or
UNIX-using authors, Mac users at the typesetting plant, and
Windows-using people at the publishing company, can all read my files
without any problems.

David, ex-W8EZE

--
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Dave (from the UK) April 30th 07 08:40 AM

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David Ryeburn wrote:

In retirement, for fun and profit, I've been doing pre-publication
debugging (for publishers) of math texts written by others. When I
receive manuscripts, these are usually sent as PDF files from scans of
the actual paper pages produced by the authors.


They could well be like that to stop one reproducing them easily.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

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LA4RT Jon Kåre Hellan April 30th 07 11:52 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
"Dave (from the UK)" writes:

There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


I don't know the rules for when copyright expires in different
countries. But I do know that John Kraus died in July 2004. I have the
3rd edition of his "Antennas", it is from 2001. The front matter says
"Copyright 1950, don't remember, 2001"

So I am not sure that the 1950 edition is in the public domain.

Kraus was a very interesting character. Invented ham antennas in the
thirties, the helix antenna ca. 1945, central in the development of
radio astronomy, and finally one of the driving forces behind SETI at
home.

Of course, it is much easier to keep up with the times if you shape
them yourself :-)

73
Jon

Cecil Moore[_2_] April 30th 07 01:35 PM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
Jimmie D wrote:
A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.


Will the full-featured Adobe Acrobat do that?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Danny Richardson April 30th 07 01:53 PM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:24:30 -0400, "Jimmie D"
wrote:


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)


This is great, Dave. Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239. Kraus shows a ~3 degree phase shift all up and
down the antenna. EZNEC shows the same thing. Now how did
Roy use this current to determine the phase shift through
a loading coil if it cannot be used to determine the phase
shift through a wire?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.

Jimmie


You can, but in the case where a book is scanned the pages are handled
as graphics and not text. To do so all pages would have to be
processed using OCR software after scanning which is a major pain and
very time consuming.

Danny, K6MHE


Ralph Mowery April 30th 07 03:58 PM

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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
Jimmie D wrote:
A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.


Will the full-featured Adobe Acrobat do that?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


You can copy and paste TEXT from the pdf file. As mentioned the Kraus book
is scanned in the gif fromat and the text you are seeing is actual an image.
To get part of the text out of the gif that is in the pdf file , you have to
treat it as a picture and use the snapshot tool and cut out what you want to
paste into another documment.
What you have done is move part of an image file and not part of a text
file.

Atleast that is how it works with the Adobe Reader 7 and MS word.



Bryan May 1st 07 04:42 AM

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Jimmie D wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)


This is great, Dave. Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239. Kraus shows a ~3 degree phase shift all up and
down the antenna. EZNEC shows the same thing. Now how did
Roy use this current to determine the phase shift through
a loading coil if it cannot be used to determine the phase
shift through a wire?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.

Jimmie

You can, IF the document page(s) wasn't/weren't scanned as an image. For
text to be searchable, the scanning device would need to have "Optical
Character Recognition" capability.
Bryan WA7PRC



Bryan May 1st 07 04:45 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/ - a Free open-source Chess Database


Dave,
That is a most welcome collection, and very worthy of bookmarking. Thank
you!
73,
Bryan WA7PRC



P.Gregory May 1st 07 04:50 AM

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OCR = Optical Charactor Recognition

recognises charactors in a graphics file/picture and can pull them
out..........P


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)


This is great, Dave. Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239. Kraus shows a ~3 degree phase shift all up and
down the antenna. EZNEC shows the same thing. Now how did
Roy use this current to determine the phase shift through
a loading coil if it cannot be used to determine the phase
shift through a wire?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com




Sal M. Onella May 2nd 07 05:25 AM

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"Jimmie D" wrote in message
...

Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239.


A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.


If your needs are modest, you can, at least in Windows.

(1) Get the desired text as large as you can on the screen.
(2) Press the Print Scrn key
(3) Open the "Paint" program
(4) Click File NewEditPaste
(5) Trim and resize as desired, using the few available features in Paint.
(Too much increase will start to show jaggies, as this is a primitive
process.)

Admittedly, the result is not editable, but it might work for you.





Jimmie D May 2nd 07 10:04 AM

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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
...

"Jimmie D" wrote in message
...

Everyone who wants to see the standing
wave phase shift up and down a 1/2WL antenna can look at
page 239.


A real shame you cant copy and paste text from a pdf file.


If your needs are modest, you can, at least in Windows.

(1) Get the desired text as large as you can on the screen.
(2) Press the Print Scrn key
(3) Open the "Paint" program
(4) Click File NewEditPaste
(5) Trim and resize as desired, using the few available features in Paint.
(Too much increase will start to show jaggies, as this is a primitive
process.)

Admittedly, the result is not editable, but it might work for you.





I was thinking in terms of posting excerpts on the newsgroup. Binaries are
frowned upon here

Jimmie



Cecil Moore[_2_] May 2nd 07 02:14 PM

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Jimmie D wrote:
I was thinking in terms of posting excerpts on the newsgroup. Binaries are
frowned upon here


OCR software could be used for ASCII text but without the
equations and graphics, excerpts are of limited usefulness.
Here's how I solved the quoting problem:

http://www.w5dxp.com/krausdip.jpg

http://www.qsl.net offers free web pages to amateur radio
operators.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Dave (from the UK) May 3rd 07 02:22 AM

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Danny Richardson wrote:

You can, but in the case where a book is scanned the pages are handled
as graphics and not text. To do so all pages would have to be
processed using OCR software after scanning which is a major pain and
very time consuming.

Danny, K6MHE


I used the OCR software in Adobe Acrobat (version 8 came on my laptop).
Of all the free programs that came on my laptop, that is by far the most
useful one. Many are not worth the disk space they take up.

Acrobat 8 did a pretty good job of the OCR. It increased the file size
dramatically from about 8 to 17 MB, but it seems to have converted it to
text OK. A search on "maxwell" showed 20 references and each line of
text the search found looked fine, with no misspellings.

You can download a free 30 day trial of Acrobat 8 (I use the standard,
not pro version). Give it a try - I think you will be impressed.


--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

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John Smith I May 5th 07 12:16 PM

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Cecil Moore wrote:

...
Here's how I solved the quoting problem:

http://www.w5dxp.com/krausdip.jpg

http://www.qsl.net offers free web pages to amateur radio
operators.


Cecil:

I expected a textual description.

You copied the "image" from adobe, then pasted that image into a image
handling application and saved it as a jpeg image???

By the way, "Fine Reader" is the best OCR application--in my humble
opinion ... it seemingly works like "magic." :-)

Regards,
JS

Cecil Moore[_2_] May 5th 07 12:58 PM

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John Smith I wrote:
You copied the "image" from adobe, then pasted that image into a image
handling application and saved it as a jpeg image???


Yep, Alt-Print-Screen takes the screen display and puts
it in the clipboard from which it can be pasted to any
image application for trimming, e.g Microsoft Paint.
OCR is of limited usefulness when graphics need to
accompany the text.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

John Smith I May 5th 07 01:27 PM

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Cecil Moore wrote:

...
OCR is of limited usefulness when graphics need to
accompany the text.


Cecil:

Very true, however, the graphics in question can be copied (such as with
your method), clipped, saved as an individual image (away from any
"text") and added/inserted to the text gleaned from using the OCR
program, allowing one to "recreate" the original document(s).

Not easy (or for the faint hearted), but can be done ...

Regards,
JS

Yuri Blanarovich May 5th 07 02:05 PM

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OCR is of limited usefulness when graphics need to
accompany the text.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


OmniPage OCR software can recognize the text and also copy the
pictures/graphics and recreate the page and save in various formats.
It can work from scanned documents or graphics format files.

Snagit software can take snapshots of just about anything selected/cutout on
the screen and save/paste to about anything.

Yuri, K3BU



Jim Lux May 8th 07 01:02 AM

Scanned Antennas book by Kraus
 
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


The copyright on that edition was renewed in 13 November 1978
(Registration # RE-7-717, original reg# A47618), so it's still in
copyright (until 95 years after publication: year 2045). This isn't
particularly unusual, since it's a standard textbook, and the second
edition didn't come out until 1988, so the publisher would have made
sure the copyright was renewed, even if W8JK didn't.

Jim

HankG May 10th 07 04:46 PM

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"Jim Lux" wrote in message
...
Dave (from the UK) wrote:
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf (7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.


The copyright on that edition was renewed in 13 November 1978
(Registration # RE-7-717, original reg# A47618), so it's still in
copyright (until 95 years after publication: year 2045). This isn't
particularly unusual, since it's a standard textbook, and the second
edition didn't come out until 1988, so the publisher would have made
sure the copyright was renewed, even if W8JK didn't.

Jim


Couldn't find anything regarding antennas at either link.

HankG



Cecil Moore[_2_] May 10th 07 05:14 PM

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HankG wrote:
Couldn't find anything regarding antennas at either link.


If you will go up one level, you will find it has been
removed.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Richard Harrison May 10th 07 05:51 PM

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Cecil, W5DXP wrote:
"If you will go up one level, you will find it has been removed."

Too bad, but it is well worthwhile to obtain the new expanded 3rd
edition of "Antennas" which may still be in print. Mine is dated 2002.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Cecil Moore[_2_] May 10th 07 06:35 PM

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Richard Harrison wrote:
Cecil, W5DXP wrote:
"If you will go up one level, you will find it has been removed."

Too bad, but it is well worthwhile to obtain the new expanded 3rd
edition of "Antennas" which may still be in print. Mine is dated 2002.


The Kraus antenna book price plus shipping is less than $20.
There's no better bargain anywhere.

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...sts=t&y=6&x=35
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

vnzjunk May 13th 07 10:52 PM

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On Apr 29, 7:01 pm, "Dave (from the UK)" see-my-
wrote:
There is a scanned copy of a book you may find interesting:

----
Antennas, John D. Kraus, Ph.D.., 1950, 553 pages

This book is a college text and engineering reference on antennas. A
pretty thorough theoretical treatment along with practical information
on antenna design.
-----

See

http://www.pmillett.com/Books/Kraus_antennas.pdf(7.9 MB)

More books at

http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm

Apparently the copyright has expired on these books, so they are not
pirated. I actually own a copy of the Kraus book, but it is attractive
to have a copy on my laptop.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/- a Free open-source Chess Database


Obviously many were able to obtain the file before it was pulled.
Wonder if anyone on the list would mind emailing me the file as I
missed getting it?



Thanks in advance


John Smith I May 13th 07 11:01 PM

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vnzjunk wrote:
Obviously many were able to obtain the file before it was pulled.
Wonder if anyone on the list would mind emailing me the file as I
missed getting it?



Thanks in advance

The file is of little use as I ran finereader on it and because it was
put together in a "funky manner" as a .pdf, it is unable to be converted
into text and images ... I have a book, however, am reluctant to go
though all the trouble of scanning and converting it--just lazy :-(

If you don't get about a million emailings of it, let me know, I will
forward ...


Regards,
JS

Jeff May 14th 07 08:48 AM

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The file is of little use as I ran finereader on it and because it was put
together in a "funky manner" as a .pdf, it is unable to be converted into
text and images ... I have a book, however, am reluctant to go though all
the trouble of scanning and converting it--just lazy :-(

If you don't get about a million emailings of it, let me know, I will
forward ...


The full version of Adobe worked fine doing a page capture, although the
file size grew somewhat!

Jeff




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