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Richard Clark · May 13th 07, 03:52 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna

On Sun, 13 May 2007 07:23:15 -0500, (Richard
Harrison) wrote:

They also found
propagation faster than c for some coil circumferences / wavelength.
Photons, massless at rest, can do that.

Hi Richard,

This is beginning to descend into nonsense.

Forgive me, it has descended into nonsense long ago, what is happening
now is called porpoising (rising and falling deeper, repeatedly).

For instance the power in propagation cannot go faster than c for
anything - that is clearly absurd. Perhaps if you were to more deeply
cite your reference, then you would find what IS going faster in c has
no material content (this discussion is in the material being used by
you and I bet is the undisclosed topic of "group" velocity which is
thoroughly useless for 75M and subwavelength coils - again, there is a
world of difference between a coil and a helix in conventional
engineering usages).

Photons get a bad reputation here. There is no such thing as a
photon that is massless at rest - it is called an electron at a higher
energy level which definitely has mass (no doubt Cecil could Xerox an
obscure reference to prove it doesn't); OR it is rendered into a
massless Phonon, but Phonons by definition move (no such thing as rest
for them either); OR as a Plasmon, but Plasmons move too, but at a
different wavelength for the same frequency; OR as an Exciton....

The list of moving quasi-particles goes on, all of them moving. This
is something in distinct contrast to Cecil's threads that give only
the "appearance of motion."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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