There's one thing we can count on, for sure, no question, no doubt:
Whatever magical catalyst is found, whatever wonderful principle is
discovered, whatever bonds are broken. . .

It will require more energy to turn the water into hydrogen and oxygen
than you'll get back when the hydrogen and oxygen are recombined. By any
method -- burning, in a fuel cell, whatever.

You can take that to the bank. Anyone claiming otherwise is ignorant,
delusional, a charlatan, or some combination of those. Anyone believing
it is sadly lacking in the most basic of science education.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Mike Kaliski wrote:
"John Smith I" wrote in message
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art wrote:

Look at Edisons' invention, the light bulb.

It makes a much better heater than a light source (only a few percent of
the energy consumed is given off as usable light!)

Besides, perhaps next they will find out that the rf power can be
reduced a hundrend-fold if the proper catalyst is used. Perhaps
attacking the hydrogen/oxygen bond on multi-levels will finally be found
to be feasible ...

I have never seen in any book ANY speculation that rf could break
hydrogen/oxygen bonds--only that microwaves could boil water! That in
itself seems a major break through that the brain dead have glossed over
in their claim of "it won't work!" Besides all that, it appears to me
that the bond is being broken well below the boiling point of the salt
water--seems like sodium chloride is already working as some sort of
catalyst--let's all hope a magnitudes better catalyst is found!

JS

John

Commercial microwave ovens have always worked on the principle of heating
water by being tuned to the vibrational frequency of water molecules. It
seems obvious that if sufficiently focused, the microwave energy would cause
spontaneous decomposition of the water molecules into their constituent
oxygen and hydrogen molecules. The addition of sodium chloride, or any salt,
to the water can act as a catalyst by causing energy to become more tightly
focused or by 'tuning' the molecules to become more susceptable to the
microwave frequency(ies) involved. Sugared drinks heat more quickly than
plain water in a microwave oven. While this may reduce the energy input
requirements, there is no possibility of recovering a greater amount of
energy than was input to initiate the reaction. This sounds like another
version of the cold fusion debate, albeit not so cold.

There is no magic here. A kilowatt of energy focused into an area of less
than a tenth of a cubic millimetre will instantaneously disassociate
virtually any substance known to science.

A commercial fusion reactor is currently being built in France. It will cost
billions of dollars to complete, but when it becomes operational there will
be a surplus of energy generated. That is our future and the future of
energy production. A jar full of salty water will never power the average
home or car unless it is surrounding several pounds of Plutonium. :-)

Mike G0ULI