Gaussian antenna planar form
Since in the past I noted that amateurs
preffered their antennas to be planar I thought I would force Gaussian elements to be constructed some what in line like a yagi but ofcourse spacings will go where ever they want to attain over all equilibrium. The results are as follows when striving for maximum gain. ( 14.25 Mhz) # el boom lth inches gain dbi 2 125 12.85 3 454 14.96 4 460 14.85 5 451 14.98 6 448 14.89 7 440 15.18 8 441 15.20 9 434 15.18 10 434 15.13 A gaussian has a natural good reasonable front to back so I left that out of the equation. The above did not show any variation in band width ie it stayed around 65 degrees so there is no focussing effect around which a yagi is designed As can be seen from the above, after you get a length of approx 34 feet no amount of extra elements added is going to provide more gain or change in radiated pattern and this pattern will be achieved with as little as 3 elements. A normal gaussian normally moves to a cubical volume similar to a stacked arrangement while still only requiring a single feed point so later I will take a look at that. From the above one can see that approx 15 dbi is the most that can be expected from a forced inline array with the pattern of radiation staying constant showing that max efficiency has been reached. I will leave it to others to give their take on the above listing. Art |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On 1 Jun, 08:03, art wrote:
Since in the past I noted that amateurs preffered their antennas to be planar I thought I would force Gaussian elements to be constructed some what in line like a yagi but ofcourse spacings will go where ever they want to attain over all equilibrium. The results are as follows when striving for maximum gain. ( 14.25 Mhz) # el boom lth inches gain dbi 2 125 12.85 3 454 14.96 4 460 14.85 5 451 14.98 6 448 14.89 7 440 15.18 8 441 15.20 9 434 15.18 10 434 15.13 A gaussian has a natural good reasonable front to back so I left that out of the equation. The above did not show any variation in band width ie it stayed around 65 degrees so there is no focussing effect around which a yagi is designed As can be seen from the above, after you get a length of approx 34 feet no amount of extra elements added is going to provide more gain or change in radiated pattern and this pattern will be achieved with as little as 3 elements. A normal gaussian normally moves to a cubical volume similar to a stacked arrangement while still only requiring a single feed point so later I will take a look at that.From the above one can see that approx 15 dbi is the most that can be expected from a forced inline array with the pattern of radiation staying constant showing that max efficiency has been reached. I will leave it to others to give their take on the above listing. Art Note I used the term BAND width above here I meant to say BEAM width. Consequential bandwidth changes were not noted to minimise variables. Art |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:03:09 -0700, art wrote:
From the above one can see that approx 15 dbi is the most that can be expected from a forced inline array with the pattern of radiation staying constant showing that max efficiency has been reached. I will leave it to others to give their take on the above listing. Hi Art, With 2 minutes of modeling (and using the only 3 element yagi model offered by EZNEC for FREE), I got 15.14 dBi. Why does a gaussian array need 10 elements to get less? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:04:21 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote: With 2 minutes of modeling (and using the only 3 element yagi model offered by EZNEC for FREE), I got 15.14 dBi. Add another minute, and I could raise it to: 15.23 dBi no, no, another 15 seconds to get: 15.47 dBi Do 10 element gaussian arrays have poor efficiency? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Gaussian antenna planar form
"Richard Clark" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:03:09 -0700, art wrote: From the above one can see that approx 15 dbi is the most that can be expected from a forced inline array with the pattern of radiation staying constant showing that max efficiency has been reached. I will leave it to others to give their take on the above listing. Hi Art, With 2 minutes of modeling (and using the only 3 element yagi model offered by EZNEC for FREE), I got 15.14 dBi. Why does a gaussian array need 10 elements to get less? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Has there ever been a definition of a guassian array. From the best I can figure ART just claimed it otbe a bunch of random lengths mounted on a boom but every time I see a model he presents its just a mucked up yagi. Jimmie |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:31:23 -0400, "Jimmie D"
wrote: "Richard Clark" wrote in message Why does a gaussian array need 10 elements to get less? Has there ever been a definition of a guassian array. From the best I can figure ART just claimed it otbe a bunch of random lengths mounted on a boom but every time I see a model he presents its just a mucked up yagi. Hi Jimmie, The definition of a gaussian array, by "theory" is something that changes to fit the occasion (or it could be said to be a new work of science that is still in progress). The definition of a gaussian array, by performance, is an inferior antenna that is more difficult to erect than the relatively mundane example of the NBS Yagi. I didn't pick the NBS for its spectacular performance (there are better designs), I simply picked the first model available so as to not waste time (yet again). 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On 1 Jun, 09:15, Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:04:21 -0700, Richard Clark wrote: With 2 minutes of modeling (and using the only 3 element yagi model offered by EZNEC for FREE), I got 15.14 dBi. Add another minute, and I could raise it to: 15.23 dBi no, no, another 15 seconds to get: 15.47 dBi Do 10 element gaussian arrays have poor efficiency? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Gaussian antenna planar form
"Jimmie D" wrote in message ... "Richard Clark" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:03:09 -0700, art wrote: From the above one can see that approx 15 dbi is the most that can be expected from a forced inline array with the pattern of radiation staying constant showing that max efficiency has been reached. I will leave it to others to give their take on the above listing. Hi Art, With 2 minutes of modeling (and using the only 3 element yagi model offered by EZNEC for FREE), I got 15.14 dBi. Why does a gaussian array need 10 elements to get less? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Has there ever been a definition of a guassian array. From the best I can figure ART just claimed it otbe a bunch of random lengths mounted on a boom but every time I see a model he presents its just a mucked up yagi. Jimmie you got it. except art claims some kind of 'equilibrium' between the elements... but then only 1 feed point, so it is basically a random parasitic set of elements acting like a bad yagi. |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:03:09 -0700, art wrote:
# el boom lth inches gain dbi 4 460 14.85 Let's see, by adding one more element to the NBS Yagi, I got 15.72 dBi. This means that the NBS yagi is 110% efficient compared to a gaussian array. This is due to the physics of Newtonian Bales which is superior to gaussian bundles. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Gaussian antenna planar form
On 1 Jun, 09:31, "Jimmie D" wrote:
"Richard Clark" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:03:09 -0700, art wrote: From the above one can see that approx 15 dbi is the most that can be expected from a forced inline array with the pattern of radiation staying constant showing that max efficiency has been reached. I will leave it to others to give their take on the above listing. Hi Art, With 2 minutes of modeling (and using the only 3 element yagi model offered by EZNEC for FREE), I got 15.14 dBi. Why does a gaussian array need 10 elements to get less? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Has there ever been a definition of a guassian array. From the best I can figure ART just claimed it otbe a bunch of random lengths mounted on a boom but every time I see a model he presents its just a mucked up yagi. Jimmie- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Jimmie Let us talk common sense. Remember its origins is based on a static field where all of the field was in a state of equilibrium. Equilibrium can be seen as a cluster of elements where the current flow in all elements flow in unison and change direction in unison. There is no need to add a boom in the definition as a supporting framework since we are looking at radiation results. On the arrangement given I forced the elements to take up a horizontal or planar position away from the natural formation form which is approximately 1/2 wave cubed. When you refer it to a "mucked up Yagi" you must understand that the Yagi is primarily set up to focus available radiation by redistribution, where as with a Gaussian there is no focussing or relaying of energy by coupling. Later I will investigate maximum radiated area of the radiated field with respect to element arrangement rather than providing a maximised beam length. Art |
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