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amdx June 13th 07 02:00 AM

Help with EZNEC
 
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?


Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike



Tom Ring June 13th 07 02:16 AM

Help with EZNEC
 
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?


Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike



I am wondering what type of antenna has -19 or -23 dBi gain. I would
speculate that they are quite omnidirectional, and the patterns wouldn't
be significantly different.

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are
commercial, could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see
why they made these.

tom
K0TAR

art June 13th 07 02:21 AM

Help with EZNEC
 
On 12 Jun, 18:16, Tom Ring wrote:
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.


Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?


Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike


I am wondering what type of antenna has -19 or -23 dBi gain. I would
speculate that they are quite omnidirectional, and the patterns wouldn't
be significantly different.

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are
commercial, could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see
why they made these.

tom
K0TAR


I would imagine he is checking for cross polarisation


Jimmie D June 13th 07 02:56 AM

Help with EZNEC
 

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
. ..
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?


Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike



I am wondering what type of antenna has -19 or -23 dBi gain. I would
speculate that they are quite omnidirectional, and the patterns wouldn't
be significantly different.

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are commercial,
could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see why they made
these.

tom
K0TAR


Very broadbanded.



Tom Ring June 13th 07 04:48 AM

Help with EZNEC
 
Jimmie D wrote:

I am wondering what type of antenna has -19 or -23 dBi gain. I would
speculate that they are quite omnidirectional, and the patterns wouldn't
be significantly different.

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are commercial,
could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see why they made
these.

tom
K0TAR


Very broadbanded.



Ridiculous.

tom
K0TAR

Cecil Moore[_2_] June 13th 07 04:50 AM

Help with EZNEC
 
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?

Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike


Under 'Desc Options', under '2D Misc', under 'Outer Ring',
you can set the gain of the outer ring to -19 dBi for
both antennas.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Dave June 13th 07 11:16 AM

Help with EZNEC
 

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
. ..
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?


Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike



I am wondering what type of antenna has -19 or -23 dBi gain. I would
speculate that they are quite omnidirectional, and the patterns wouldn't
be significantly different.

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are commercial,
could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see why they made
these.

tom
K0TAR


but 0dBi would be perfectly omnidirectional by definition. either he is
reading the scale wrong or is looking at f/b ratio instead of gain, or maybe
looking at depth of a null or sidelobes.



J. B. Wood June 13th 07 11:56 AM

Help with EZNEC
 
In article , Tom Ring
wrote:

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are
commercial, could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see
why they made these.

tom
K0TAR


Hello, and you can just integrate a pad into the antenna feedpoint and
market it as a broadband antenna - Works 2-30 MHz with no tuning required!
;-) Sincerely, and 73s from N4GG0,

John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail:
Naval Research Laboratory
4555 Overlook Avenue, SW
Washington, DC 20375-5337

amdx June 13th 07 12:04 PM

Help with EZNEC
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
et...
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?

Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike


Under 'Desc Options', under '2D Misc', under 'Outer Ring',
you can set the gain of the outer ring to -19 dBi for
both antennas.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


Thank you Cecil, I'll give that a try.



amdx June 13th 07 12:11 PM

Help with EZNEC
 

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
. ..
amdx wrote:
I'm comparing elevation plots of an antenna. They have different
forward gains, this makes it difficult to compare the lobe shape.

Is there a way to equalize the gains to do a comparison?


Example: I have an antenna that is -19dbi and one that is -23dbi.
Can I add 4db of gain to one to make the comparison easier?
Mike



I am wondering what type of antenna has -19 or -23 dBi gain. I would
speculate that they are quite omnidirectional, and the patterns wouldn't
be significantly different.

It's tough to get gain that low unintentionally. If they are commercial,
could you please point me at a web site? I'd love to see why they made
these.

tom
K0TAR

I'm modeling a Flag antenna.
It is a directional antenna.
Small size for the low bands.
Btw, this site has one that has -43dbi gain.
http://taliaphoto.com/n4is/BIG_DUAL_LOOP.html
I'd like to have one!
Mike




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