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Radium[_2_] June 28th 07 05:38 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.

I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.

Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.

Giga-eon = a billion eons

Eon = a billion years

Gigacycle = a billion cycles.

*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle

Gigaphoton = a billion photons

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.

10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000

So you get:

(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Thanks,

Radium


John Smith I June 28th 07 05:43 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequencyon an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
Radium wrote:

...
Thanks,

Radium


ROFLOL!!!

JS

Eeyore June 28th 07 05:59 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequencyon an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 


Radium wrote:

Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.


Why not ?

You're a trolling IDIOT.

Graham


RHF June 28th 07 07:03 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 27, 9:38 pm, Radium wrote:
Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.

I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.

Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.

Giga-eon = a billion eons

Eon = a billion years

Gigacycle = a billion cycles.

*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle

Gigaphoton = a billion photons

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.

10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000

So you get:

(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.

Thanks,

Radium




RHF June 28th 07 07:03 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 27, 9:43 pm, John Smith I wrote:
Radium wrote:
...
Thanks,


Radium


ROFLOL!!!

JS




RHF June 28th 07 07:03 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 27, 9:59 pm, Eeyore
wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:


Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.


Why not ?

You're a trolling IDIOT.

Graham




Jeff Liebermann[_2_] June 28th 07 07:44 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
Radium hath wroth:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.


Why? Would you expect facts to change if I were annoyed or offended?
If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.


Oh, that's easy. The worlds supply of zeros, nulls, and comma
separators is strictly limited. The galactic supply of such things
were created by the big bang and are not being made any more. If you
consume a substantial number of zeros, the zeros must be borrowed from
somewhere. While it is mathematically possible to bury the reader in
zeros, it is ecologically incorrect to do so. Also, be advised that
the government budget and trade deficits have cornered the supply of
zeros, and may soon approach an astronomical accumulation of zeros. At
the present rate of zero depletion, you may soon be forced to use
large exponentials, in order to avoid consuming zeros.

No offense


Would defense be acceptable?

but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

RHF June 28th 07 07:50 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 27, 11:44 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Radium hath wroth:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.


Why? Would you expect facts to change if I were annoyed or offended?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.


Oh, that's easy. The worlds supply of zeros, nulls, and comma
separators is strictly limited. The galactic supply of such things
were created by the big bang and are not being made any more. If you
consume a substantial number of zeros, the zeros must be borrowed from
somewhere. While it is mathematically possible to bury the reader in
zeros, it is ecologically incorrect to do so. Also, be advised that
the government budget and trade deficits have cornered the supply of
zeros, and may soon approach an astronomical accumulation of zeros. At
the present rate of zero depletion, you may soon be forced to use
large exponentials, in order to avoid consuming zeros.

No offense


Would defense be acceptable?

but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558




m II June 28th 07 08:15 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequencyon an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.



an a-null-ment is in order.




mike

RHF June 28th 07 08:21 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 12:15 am, m II wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.


an a-null-ment is in order.

mike




Sal M. Onella June 28th 07 08:52 AM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 

"Radium" wrote in message
oups.com...

snip


No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.




Didn't you pull something like this crap in the sci.engr.television.advanced
newsgroup a few years ago? The correct anwer then and now is that the
output signal is the modulating signal with a slow phase change impressed on
it proportional to the instantaneous amplitude of the carrier. Think
"rotating vector."

No further replies forthcoming, as my troll-o-meter is edging into the red
zone.




Mike Kaliski June 28th 07 12:09 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 

"Radium" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.

I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.

Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.

Giga-eon = a billion eons

Eon = a billion years

Gigacycle = a billion cycles.

*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle

Gigaphoton = a billion photons

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.

10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000

So you get:

(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Thanks,

Radium


Radium

The answer is no. It takes a finite time for even so called 'instantaneous'
quantum interactions to occur, so the frequencies quoted are a nonsense.
Essentially frequencies above around 10 ^ 30 Hz may (as) well not exist. I
am probably a few orders of magnitude out here, but that is the general
idea.

For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477". Available from
Amazon and all good booksellers. Mr. Penrose has collaborated with some of
the greatest theoretical mathamaticians and physicists of the last fifty
years and if you can follow the maths, all will become clear. This book will
explain a lot of the maths required anyway, so worth giving it a go.

Most mathematicians prefer to simplify equations by removing superfluous
zeroes and exponents by cancellation on either side of the equation. :-)

Mike G0ULI



Cecil Moore[_2_] June 28th 07 12:46 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequencyon an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
Mike Kaliski wrote:
For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477".


Mike, does he say anything about quantum entanglement?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Martin[_2_] June 28th 07 05:55 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 3:52 am, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:
"Radium" wrote in message

oups.com...

snip



No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Didn't you pull something like this crap in the sci.engr.television.advanced
newsgroup a few years ago? The correct anwer then and now is that the
output signal is the modulating signal with a slow phase change impressed on
it proportional to the instantaneous amplitude of the carrier. Think
"rotating vector."

No further replies forthcoming, as my troll-o-meter is edging into the red
zone.


Your troll-o-meter is defective, it should be pegged hard in the red
zone.
Please have it recalibrated to a proper sensitivity.


Mike Kaliski June 28th 07 06:22 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
Mike Kaliski wrote:
For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide

to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477".


Mike, does he say anything about quantum entanglement?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


Cecil

Yes indeed he does. This book is about as leading edge as it gets. The
author has worked closely with Stephen Hawking and people of similar
academic credentials. It doesn't get any better than that.

It is clear from reading this book that we have reached a plateau in our
capability of understanding how the universe works and we need to await the
arrival of new technology and techniques to be able to test the latest
theories. The theory has outstripped the technology for the time being.

Mike G0ULI



RHF June 28th 07 06:47 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 10:22 am, "Mike Kaliski" wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message

t...

Mike Kaliski wrote:
For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide

to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477".


Mike, does he say anything about quantum entanglement?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


Cecil

Yes indeed he does. This book is about as leading edge as it gets. The
author has worked closely with Stephen Hawking and people of similar
academic credentials. It doesn't get any better than that.

It is clear from reading this book that we have reached a plateau in our
capability of understanding how the universe works and we need to await the
arrival of new technology and techniques to be able to test the latest
theories. The theory has outstripped the technology for the time being.

Mike G0ULI


? . . .


RHF June 28th 07 06:47 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 12:15 am, m II wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.


an a-null-ment is in order.

mike


.. . . ? . . .


RHF June 28th 07 06:48 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 12:52 am, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:
"Radium" wrote in message

oups.com...

snip



No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Didn't you pull something like this crap in the sci.engr.television.advanced
newsgroup a few years ago? The correct anwer then and now is that the
output signal is the modulating signal with a slow phase change impressed on
it proportional to the instantaneous amplitude of the carrier. Think
"rotating vector."

No further replies forthcoming, as my troll-o-meter is edging into the red
zone.


.. . . ? . . .


RHF June 28th 07 06:48 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 9:55 am, Martin wrote:
On Jun 28, 3:52 am, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:





"Radium" wrote in message


roups.com...


snip


No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Didn't you pull something like this crap in the sci.engr.television.advanced
newsgroup a few years ago? The correct anwer then and now is that the
output signal is the modulating signal with a slow phase change impressed on
it proportional to the instantaneous amplitude of the carrier. Think
"rotating vector."


No further replies forthcoming, as my troll-o-meter is edging into the red
zone.


Your troll-o-meter is defective, it should be pegged hard in the red
zone.
Please have it recalibrated to a proper sensitivity.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


.. . . ? . . .


RHF June 28th 07 06:49 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 4:09 am, "Mike Kaliski" wrote:
"Radium" wrote in message

oups.com...





Hi:


Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.


I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.


Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?


If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.


10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.


10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.


Giga-eon = a billion eons


Eon = a billion years


Gigacycle = a billion cycles.


*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle


Gigaphoton = a billion photons


10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.


10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000


So you get:


(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)


10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)


10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]


No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Thanks,


Radium


Radium

The answer is no. It takes a finite time for even so called 'instantaneous'
quantum interactions to occur, so the frequencies quoted are a nonsense.
Essentially frequencies above around 10 ^ 30 Hz may (as) well not exist. I
am probably a few orders of magnitude out here, but that is the general
idea.

For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477". Available from
Amazon and all good booksellers. Mr. Penrose has collaborated with some of
the greatest theoretical mathamaticians and physicists of the last fifty
years and if you can follow the maths, all will become clear. This book will
explain a lot of the maths required anyway, so worth giving it a go.

Most mathematicians prefer to simplify equations by removing superfluous
zeroes and exponents by cancellation on either side of the equation. :-)

Mike G0ULI- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


.. . . ? . . .


RHF June 28th 07 06:49 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On Jun 28, 4:46 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Mike Kaliski wrote:
For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477".


Mike, does he say anything about quantum entanglement?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


.. . . ? . . .


Don Bowey June 28th 07 07:03 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulationfrequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
On 6/28/07 10:22 AM, in article ,
"Mike Kaliski" wrote:


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
Mike Kaliski wrote:
For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide

to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477".


Mike, does he say anything about quantum entanglement?
--
73, Cecil
http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil

Yes indeed he does. This book is about as leading edge as it gets. The
author has worked closely with Stephen Hawking and people of similar
academic credentials. It doesn't get any better than that.

It is clear from reading this book that we have reached a plateau in our
capability of understanding how the universe works and we need to await the
arrival of new technology and techniques to be able to test the latest
theories. The theory has outstripped the technology for the time being.

Mike G0ULI



They don't know how to tie strings together?


Jeff Liebermann[_2_] June 28th 07 07:45 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
m II hath wroth:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.


an a-null-ment is in order.
mike


Divorcing oneself from reality is probably easier and cheaper than
getting the church involved in an annulment.

The problem here is that most people don't understand the difference
between a zero and a null. Zeros are easy as they are place holders
for orders of magnitude increases in quantities. Nulls are what's
left when we run out of zeros. Think of nulls as place holders for
the missing zeros.

The uncontrolled substitution of nulls for missing zeros has the
potential for destroying civilization as we know it. For example, a
check written for a million dollars would normally be inscribed:
$1,000,000.00
When all the zero have been consumed and replaced by nulls, it would
look like this:
$1, , .
which leaves much to the imagination. Perhaps we should add zeros to
the endangered "specie" list?

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

James Beck June 28th 07 08:04 PM

AM electromagnetic waves: astronomically-high modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency
 
In article .com, rhf-
says...
On Jun 28, 4:46 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Mike Kaliski wrote:
For a detailed explaination see "The Road to Reality: A complete Guide to
the Laws of the Universe by Roger Penrose - ISBN 0739458477".


Mike, does he say anything about quantum entanglement?
--
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http://www.w5dxp.com

. . . ? . . .


I see there are a lot of unanswered questions in your life.

Bob's Backfire Burrito June 28th 07 08:08 PM

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"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


" Radium"

Is a certified nutcase........
nothing new here.



Larry Finger June 28th 07 08:09 PM

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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
m II hath wroth:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

There are about 10^80 particles in the universe. Do with them as you
please but do save the zeros for those that need them.


an a-null-ment is in order.
mike


Divorcing oneself from reality is probably easier and cheaper than
getting the church involved in an annulment.

The problem here is that most people don't understand the difference
between a zero and a null. Zeros are easy as they are place holders
for orders of magnitude increases in quantities. Nulls are what's
left when we run out of zeros. Think of nulls as place holders for
the missing zeros.

The uncontrolled substitution of nulls for missing zeros has the
potential for destroying civilization as we know it. For example, a
check written for a million dollars would normally be inscribed:
$1,000,000.00
When all the zero have been consumed and replaced by nulls, it would
look like this:
$1, , .
which leaves much to the imagination. Perhaps we should add zeros to
the endangered "specie" list?

Doesn't the space collapse so that we end up with $1...?

JIMMIE June 28th 07 09:04 PM

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On Jun 28, 12:38 am, Radium wrote:
Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.

I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.

Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.

Giga-eon = a billion eons

Eon = a billion years

Gigacycle = a billion cycles.

*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle

Gigaphoton = a billion photons

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.

10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000

So you get:

(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.

Thanks,

Radium


I guess you could have some real problems when the rise time of your
modulated envelope becomes faster than the speed of light.


Sjouke Burry June 28th 07 09:16 PM

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Radium wrote:
Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.


Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and


Ah our village idiot is back again.
Also crossposting like all welbehaving
village idiots.

m II June 28th 07 10:21 PM

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Don Bowey wrote:

They don't know how to tie strings together?



When some of them have only one end, it becomes bothersome. thankfully
my shoelaces were spared this metaphysical ambiguity.







mike

Jeff Liebermann June 29th 07 12:45 AM

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:09:37 GMT, Larry Finger
wrote:

Doesn't the space collapse so that we end up with $1...?


Space does not collapse except in the vicinity of a black hole. Space
also tends to collapse during department reorganizations, where
there's never enough space left.

There's also the problem of accounting for the missing nulls. Where
did they go and what was the exchange rate?

Such things are fairly important. For example, did you ever notice
that Roman Numerals do not have a zero or a null? There was a half
hearted attempt at inventing zero or null (nulla), but fortunately
that failed for many centuries. Rome survived much decadence and some
really weird Emperors without much difficulty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals
However, no sooner than the Romans adopted the bad habits of their
conquered neighbors, which included zero and null, did their
civilzation falter and eventually die. At the least, this should be
an obvious clue that messing with zero and null should not be taken
lightly.


--
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# 831-336-2558
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John Fields June 29th 07 12:59 AM

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:38:01 -0700, Radium
wrote:

Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.

I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.

Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.

Giga-eon = a billion eons

Eon = a billion years

Gigacycle = a billion cycles.

*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle

Gigaphoton = a billion photons

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.

10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000

So you get:

(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


---
No offense but all you're really interested in is getting
unsuspecting people with good hearts to respond to your inane
trolls.

It's painfully obvious that you're not even a neophyte when it comes
to science, so your persistence in wasting everyone's time with your
foolishness indicates that you're not looking for answers, only
attention.


--
JF

m II June 29th 07 02:26 AM

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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Such things are fairly important. For example, did you ever notice
that Roman Numerals do not have a zero or a null? There was a half
hearted attempt at inventing zero or null (nulla), but fortunately
that failed for many centuries. Rome survived much decadence and some
really weird Emperors without much difficulty.



There's the troubling rumour that Zero fiddled while Rome burned. It's
simply not rue.

mike

RHF June 29th 07 06:36 PM

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On Jun 28, 6:26 pm, m II wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Such things are fairly important. For example, did you ever notice
that Roman Numerals do not have a zero or a null? There was a half
hearted attempt at inventing zero or null (nulla), but fortunately
that failed for many centuries. Rome survived much decadence and some
really weird Emperors without much difficulty.


There's the troubling rumour that Zero fiddled while Rome burned. It's
simply not rue.

mike



RHF June 29th 07 06:37 PM

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On Jun 28, 2:21 pm, m II wrote:
Don Bowey wrote:
They don't know how to tie strings together?


When some of them have only one end, it becomes bothersome. thankfully
my shoelaces were spared this metaphysical ambiguity.

mike



RHF June 30th 07 06:24 AM

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On Jun 29, 11:03 am, clifto wrote:
Radium wrote:
Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?


No.

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.


No.

--
We can't possibly imprison 300 million Americans for not paying their
taxes, so let's grant all of them amnesty NOW!



N7ZZT - Eric Oyen June 30th 07 11:38 AM

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the question begs..... HUH????????

Radium wrote:

Hi:

Please don't be annoyed/offended by my question.

I have a very weird question about electromagnetic radiation,
carriers, and modulators.

Is it mathematically-possible to carry a modulator signal with a
frequency of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 gigacycles
every 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond and
an amplitude of 1-watt-per-meter-squared on a AM carrier signal whose
frequency is 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000)
nanocycle* every 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 giga-
eons and whose amplitude is a minimum of 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000 gigaphotons per 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond?

If it is not mathematically-possible, then please explain why.

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) second is an
extremely short amount of time. 10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-
power-10^1,000,000,000) nanosecond is even shorter because a
nanosecond is shorter than a second.

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 cycles is an extremely
large amount of cycles. 10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000
gigacycles is even more because a gigacycle is more than a cycle.

Giga-eon = a billion eons

Eon = a billion years

Gigacycle = a billion cycles.

*nanocycle = billionth of a cycle

Gigaphoton = a billion photons

10^1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000 -- now that is one
large large number.

10^1,000,000,000 = 10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000

So you get:

(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(1,000,000,000-to-the-power-10^1,000,000,000) = 10^-(10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000)-to-the-power-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000)

10^-(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-to-the-
power-1,000,000,000) is an extremely small number at it equals 10-to-
the-power-NEGATIVE-[(10-to-the-power-1,000,000,000) to the power (10-
to-the-power-1,000,000,000)]

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.


Thanks,

Radium



DTC June 30th 07 08:33 PM

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m II wrote:
There's the troubling rumour that Zero fiddled while Rome burned. It's
simply not rue.


Correct...the fiddle wasn't invented for another thousand years.

[quote Wiki]

It was said by Suetonius and Cassius Dio that Nero sang the "Sack of Ilium"
in stage costume while the city burned. However, Tacitus' account has Nero
in Antium at the time of the fire. Tacitus said that Nero playing his lyre
and singing while the city burned was only rumor. Popular legend remembers
Nero fiddling-- that is, playing the fiddle-- while Rome burned, but this
is an anachronism as the instrument had not yet been invented, and would
not be for over 1,000 years.

RHF June 30th 07 08:43 PM

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On Jun 30, 12:33 pm, DTC wrote:
m II wrote:
There's the troubling rumour that Zero fiddled while Rome burned. It's
simply not rue.


Correct...the fiddle wasn't invented for another thousand years.

[quote Wiki]

It was said by Suetonius and Cassius Dio that Nero sang the "Sack of Ilium"
in stage costume while the city burned. However, Tacitus' account has Nero
in Antium at the time of the fire. Tacitus said that Nero playing his lyre
and singing while the city burned was only rumor. Popular legend remembers
Nero fiddling-- that is, playing the fiddle-- while Rome burned, but this
is an anachronism as the instrument had not yet been invented, and would
not be for over 1,000 years.



Sal M. Onella July 3rd 07 05:37 AM

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"Martin" wrote in message
oups.com...

snip


Your troll-o-meter is defective, it should be pegged hard in the red
zone.
Please have it recalibrated to a proper sensitivity.


Big laugh -- TKS



RHF July 3rd 07 05:52 AM

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On Jul 2, 9:37 pm, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message

oups.com...

snip

Your troll-o-meter is defective, it should be pegged hard in the red
zone.
Please have it recalibrated to a proper sensitivity.


Big laugh -- TKS


troll alert, Troll Alert. TROLL ALERT !
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Danger Will Robinson ! - Troll Alert . . .
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