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How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
"Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth:
Jeff Liebermann wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth: Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Add EPIC, EPIC Express, ITX, Mini-ITX, Nano-ITX, EBX, PCI-104, PC-104 Plus, CompactPCI, EPIC, EPIC-Express, PC/104, PC/104-Plus, PC/104-Express, PICMG, AMC, ETX, ECX, XTX, COM-Express, COM-Express, and probably a few I've missed. PC's own the industrial control market. The catch is that most boards are rather expensive. Sorry about the duplicated acronyms. The HP 85 desktop computer with the tape drive, tiny monochrome monitor and IEEE-488 port was used at Microdyne for some very old equipment for test and alignment, till they finally hired a programmer to write new software for a PC. http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/hp85.html You could have used an emulator. Some of the old HP test hardware has been emulated on a PC as a means of preserving the investment in software. For the HP85: http://www.kaser.com/hp85.html Incidentally, I collect HP calculators: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp-calc/ Ugh. Those are ancient photos. My collection is easily twice as large today. I also do some repairs: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp65/ in my non-existent spare time. http://www.measurementcomputing.com/index.html was our supplier for PC-104 IEEE-488 interface boards. They used to be Computer Boards, Inc. They still own http:/www.ComputerBoards.com I used to buy relatively cheap ISA and PCI I/O cards from them. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth: Jeff Liebermann wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth: Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Add EPIC, EPIC Express, ITX, Mini-ITX, Nano-ITX, EBX, PCI-104, PC-104 Plus, CompactPCI, EPIC, EPIC-Express, PC/104, PC/104-Plus, PC/104-Express, PICMG, AMC, ETX, ECX, XTX, COM-Express, COM-Express, and probably a few I've missed. PC's own the industrial control market. The catch is that most boards are rather expensive. Sorry about the duplicated acronyms. :-) The HP 85 desktop computer with the tape drive, tiny monochrome monitor and IEEE-488 port was used at Microdyne for some very old equipment for test and alignment, till they finally hired a programmer to write new software for a PC. http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/hp85.html You could have used an emulator. Most of the software needed updated, anyway. The equipment being tested had the newer IEEE-488 implementation, and the old system couldn't make use of it. We had five of them and the cal lab could barely keep two running. There were days we had to forcible take the only working unit away from engineering to ship on time. After the new software was ready, they bought a pile of NI boards for the Win 95 computers used in test and engineering. (This was pre Y2K) Some of the old HP test hardware has been emulated on a PC as a means of preserving the investment in software. For the HP85: http://www.kaser.com/hp85.html Incidentally, I collect HP calculators: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp-calc/ Ugh. Those are ancient photos. My collection is easily twice as large today. I also do some repairs: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp65/ in my non-existent spare time. http://www.measurementcomputing.com/index.html was our supplier for PC-104 IEEE-488 interface boards. They used to be Computer Boards, Inc. They still own http:/www.ComputerBoards.com I used to buy relatively cheap ISA and PCI I/O cards from them. I may still have a few of the padded shipping boxes, some of each name. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
snip I've also had IEEE-488 interfaces for the Commodore 64. I used it with their 4023 and 8023 P series printers. Indeed the PET 4000 and 8000 series GPIB ports are useful for instrument control and I have seen quite a few in physics departments doing that job. Regards, Michael |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
snip The HP 85 desktop computer with the tape drive, tiny monochrome monitor and IEEE-488 port was used at Microdyne for some very old equipment for test and alignment, till they finally hired a programmer to write new software for a PC. One may be surprised at the current level of interest in HP85 hardware; many are still running well in their roles as experiment controllers and with spares there is little impetus to replace them. Regards, Michael |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Don Bowey wrote:
I have a new, old-stock printer for the HP85, still in it's bag and box. Is there any interest in it or is it junk? Some many years ago now, I organized a group purchase from PIC of drive belts for the printer and also developed a technique for re-rubbering the capstan roller in the tape drive. I would appreciate getting your printer ;) Regards, Michael msg _at_ cybertheque _dot_ org |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
msg hath wroth:
Don Bowey wrote: I have a new, old-stock printer for the HP85, still in it's bag and box. Is there any interest in it or is it junk? Not me. I've got one. Some many years ago now, I organized a group purchase from PIC of drive belts for the printer and also developed a technique for re-rubbering the capstan roller in the tape drive. I would appreciate getting your printer ;) That was the problem with much of the HP mechanical hardware. The rubber composition just didn't last and would eventually decompose into a sticky mess. For example, this is my reconstructed HP-65 mag stripe reader drive wheel using a slice of clear vinyl tubing. http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp65/slides/Hp65-Drive-Roller.html Incidentally, the most difficult part of this exercise was neatly cutting the hose to size. I had to use a razor blade or a scalpel. The tape drive roller in the HP85 was susceptible to the same rubber deterioration. http://www.series80.org/Articles/capstan-repair.html I fixed two using the same clear vinyl tubing trick. Sorry, no photos. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
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, Telamon wrote: In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Kurt wrote: In article 346324481020070722181912elecconnec@AmericaOnLine. com, Todd Allcock wrote: At 21 Jul 2007 19:40:38 -0700 Kurt wrote: Bottom line - People want products that work for them. Period. Mac delivers, like them or not. Yet Macs have been around for 20 years and still only have a 5% market share- clearly they "deliver" something those 5% want, but not something "everyone" wants. Haven't me from running a good-sized design advertising design studio. Never got what everyone else liked about PCs (and forget the "PCS are cheaper" excuse - you pay more in time and virus prevention later). Use Virtual PC about once a week to test on IE browser and access a couple ActiveX powered control panels. More lies from the mac community. There are excellent anti virus programs that are free for private use AVG is my favorite. Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Snip Yes. National Instruments. -- Telamon Ventura, California Hey, neighbor (also Ventura) -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
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How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
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Kurt wrote: In article , Telamon wrote: In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Kurt wrote: In article 346324481020070722181912elecconnec@AmericaOnLine. com, Todd Allcock wrote: At 21 Jul 2007 19:40:38 -0700 Kurt wrote: Bottom line - People want products that work for them. Period. Mac delivers, like them or not. Yet Macs have been around for 20 years and still only have a 5% market share- clearly they "deliver" something those 5% want, but not something "everyone" wants. Haven't me from running a good-sized design advertising design studio. Never got what everyone else liked about PCs (and forget the "PCS are cheaper" excuse - you pay more in time and virus prevention later). Use Virtual PC about once a week to test on IE browser and access a couple ActiveX powered control panels. More lies from the mac community. There are excellent anti virus programs that are free for private use AVG is my favorite. Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Snip Yes. National Instruments. -- Telamon Ventura, California Hey, neighbor (also Ventura) There are a few people from Ventura, Oxnard, and LA that post to this news group. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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