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John Smith I August 6th 07 03:21 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
gwatts wrote:

...
Why don't you answer his question?


Consider it answered--in my last post preceding this one--in detail,
even ...

JS

gwatts August 6th 07 03:23 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
John Smith I wrote:
...
700Mhz (or, nationwide cheap fiber optics, for that matter) would be
preferable to BPL, however, BPL has the possibility of being able to
escape the large political/corporate controls;


Considering that BPL stands for 'Broadband over Power Line' how does
something implemented over the infrastructure of and thus controlled by
the power companies, you know, some of those large corporate entities
you say BPL will escape the control of, escape those large
political/corporate controls?


... the amateur
community were warned--long ago; few paid attention--now it is too late.


This part, sadly, is probably correct.

John Smith I August 6th 07 03:45 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
gwatts wrote:

...
Considering that BPL stands for 'Broadband over Power Line' how does
something implemented over the infrastructure of and thus controlled by
the power companies, you know, some of those large corporate entities
you say BPL will escape the control of, escape those large
political/corporate controls?
...


Shouldn't you really be asking:

1) How has this happened? (or, are we the "frog in the pan of boiling
water?")

2) How can we stop our public servants (note: some refer to them as
"leaders") from criminal, self-serving (pocket stuffing), anti-American
and treasonous behavior and engaging in such conspiracies with large
business?

3) How can we get real world figures/facts from our news media? And,
why are these media outlets not on trial?

4) Etc., etc. ....

Power companies have already attempted to control "their" power-lines
(really the public power-lines) from being subjected to a secondary use
(BPL), they lost--so far ... American citizens can use their lines as
they please. In the end game, I suspect the politicians will be paid
off so power companies can hold BPL providers to ransom--this criminal
behavior permeates government/business these days ... many are leaving
the states, that is one option--let 'em tax the illegals to death.

Regards,
JS

Highland Ham August 6th 07 04:26 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
Amateur Radio and its' importance just stands as a pale ghost in
comparison to the dramatic figures in this play ... the amateur
community were warned--long ago; few paid attention--now it is too late.

==============================
Considering the efforts made and attention paid by ARRL on behalf of all
radio amateurs in the USA to stop BPL , the above seems rather off the
mark . In the end BPL will not come to fruition whatever the 'pushing'
by FCC and Commercial Powers , also because it will highly likely not
be commercially viable.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

John Smith I August 6th 07 04:35 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
Highland Ham wrote:

==============================
Considering the efforts made and attention paid by ARRL on behalf of all
radio amateurs in the USA to stop BPL , the above seems rather off the
mark . In the end BPL will not come to fruition whatever the 'pushing'
by FCC and Commercial Powers , also because it will highly likely not
be commercially viable.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


I am afraid you missed the whole point, did you just "come on board?"

The surest way to implement the downfall of BPL would be to see the
success of 700Mhz "freedom zone."

Then, BPL would pale in comparison to a method that can penetrate
virtually any building and you can use while you walk down the street ...

Unfortunately, the mindset you have is shared by many, too many; unable
to see the forest through the trees--you attempt to be the tail which
wags the dog; while that may, or may not, work for high powers in high
places--I believe such is doomed to failure--indeed, isn't that how we
got here?

Regards,
JS

Geoffrey S. Mendelson August 6th 07 04:39 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
gwatts wrote:

A very 'Rumsfeldian' response, i.e, rephrasing the question so as not to
have to answer, snipped.


No, I asked it that way because I know of no country besides the U.S. that
tested BPL and allowed it, but in case there were any I was not aware of,
anyone who knew could answer.

Do you know of any? The only country that came close that I know of was
Austtrialia, because they have large sparsely populated areas. However
last I heard it was canceled because it was shown to interfere with
Coastal radio stations.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson August 6th 07 04:39 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
gwatts wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
...
700Mhz (or, nationwide cheap fiber optics, for that matter) would be
preferable to BPL, however, BPL has the possibility of being able to
escape the large political/corporate controls;


Considering that BPL stands for 'Broadband over Power Line' how does
something implemented over the infrastructure of and thus controlled by
the power companies, you know, some of those large corporate entities
you say BPL will escape the control of, escape those large
political/corporate controls?


Because it is low power radio waves transmitted over very long wires.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

gwatts August 6th 07 05:37 PM

Time to brush up on 700Mhz Antennas ...
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
gwatts wrote:


A very 'Rumsfeldian' response, i.e, rephrasing the question so as not to
have to answer, snipped.



No, I asked it that way...


My response was to Smith, not you.


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