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With the future sale of a chunk of old tv @ 700Mhz, we will soon see
questions about these antennas for a new breed of hardware ...

In the mean time, the FCC is going to assure large telecom corps to
maintain and expand their strangle hold on services, this will start
getting you up to speed:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20108087/

Our criminal political system shafts us yet one more time ... :-(

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helmsman wrote:

One more time? They are still trying to run BPL thru the Amateur and
Emergency bands.
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JS



Due to irrational responses, claims and reactions from persons who have
never had experience with BPL, broadband over power lines is making slow
progress--but it is happening ... too bad naysayers can hold up
important progress over their selfish and petty interests.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/... 4&newsLang=en
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/07/17/2788782.htm

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John Smith I wrote:

Due to irrational responses, claims and reactions from persons who have
never had experience with BPL, broadband over power lines is making slow
progress--but it is happening ... too bad naysayers can hold up
important progress over their selfish and petty interests.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/... 4&newsLang=en
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/07/17/2788782.htm


It's interesting that you quote a Google source. Google invested $100,000,000
in BPL, which makes them IMHO part of the problem, not the solution.

Exactly which countries besides the U.S. have allowed it after testing it?

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Exactly which countries besides the U.S. have allowed it after testing it?

Geoff.


I am afraid I "hear" that question as:

1) Exactly what countries developed the A-Bomb, before the USA?

2) Exactly what countries developed the desktop computer, before the USA?

3) Exactly what countries walked the Moon, before the USA?

4) Exactly what countries had "real" stealth aircraft, before the USA?

5) Etc., etc. ...

If we waited for other countries, we'd be in real trouble now, wouldn't we?

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Hello Mr. Smith,

I still find BPL risky for any gains it might bring forth. As some
broadband providers are looking to push into/beyond ethernet data rates,
BPL brings to the table sub par data rates with the risk of RFI into a
regulated natural resource.

BPL could be nice as a backup system, but it is my opinion that a high
speed infrastructure is needed.

It has been really handy that the Mom and Pop grown Cable industry has
provided some of this infrastructure.

If we are looking to do this without laying new cable, maybe a cellular
structured microwave wireless network would work. I thought the new
Wi-Fi was to provide for this?

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Chris


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Christopher Cox wrote:
If we are looking to do this without laying new cable, maybe a cellular
structured microwave wireless network would work. I thought the new
Wi-Fi was to provide for this?


Here in Israel, the Electric company is NOT allowed to sell Internet
access. Planning for the day they will, they have laid fibre optic
cables along all of their right of way. Currently they use it for
their own internal data communications.

BPL will never be approved here. It was tested and found to cause
interference. Here the IDF which is a combination of the Army,
Navy, Air Force, Civil Defense, Department of Emergency Preparedness,
Homeland Security, all rolled together takes a dim view of radio
interference.

While we are a small country, they expect to be able to maintain
communications using HF and low band VHF.

Geoff.

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John Smith I wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Exactly which countries besides the U.S. have allowed it after testing
it?

Geoff.



I am afraid I "hear" that question as:
...


A very 'Rumsfeldian' response, i.e, rephrasing the question so as not to
have to answer, snipped.

Why don't you answer his question?
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gwatts wrote:

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Why don't you answer his question?


Consider it answered--in my last post preceding this one--in detail,
even ...

JS
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gwatts wrote:

A very 'Rumsfeldian' response, i.e, rephrasing the question so as not to
have to answer, snipped.


No, I asked it that way because I know of no country besides the U.S. that
tested BPL and allowed it, but in case there were any I was not aware of,
anyone who knew could answer.

Do you know of any? The only country that came close that I know of was
Austtrialia, because they have large sparsely populated areas. However
last I heard it was canceled because it was shown to interfere with
Coastal radio stations.

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John Smith I wrote:
helmsman wrote:

One more time? They are still trying to run BPL thru the Amateur and
Emergency bands.
Regards,
JS



Due to irrational responses, claims and reactions from persons who have
never had experience with BPL, broadband over power lines is making slow
progress--but it is happening ... too bad naysayers can hold up
important progress over their selfish and petty interests.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/... 4&newsLang=en
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/07/17/2788782.htm

Regards,
JS



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