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Nick November 18th 07 12:28 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
I am just coming to the end of my old 60:40 tin/lead fluxed solder
and after a quick look it seems that
old style solder is not easy to find - if at all.

I did read something about this months / years ago, saying it is not
as easy to use, but forgot to stock up at the time

Can anyone bring me up to date with the new stuff, suitable fluxes
or whether the old stuff is actually available.

I don't use much, generally for small PCB repairs and every
soldering, so a 500 gram would last me ages

Thanks,
Nick



Jeff November 18th 07 01:17 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
CPC still sell 60/40 about £15 for a 500g reel

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/br...tt=solder&Ntx=


73
Jeff

"Nick" wrote in message
...
I am just coming to the end of my old 60:40 tin/lead fluxed solder and
after a quick look it seems that
old style solder is not easy to find - if at all.

I did read something about this months / years ago, saying it is not as
easy to use, but forgot to stock up at the time

Can anyone bring me up to date with the new stuff, suitable fluxes or
whether the old stuff is actually available.

I don't use much, generally for small PCB repairs and every soldering, so
a 500 gram would last me ages

Thanks,
Nick




Alt Beer November 18th 07 02:50 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/br...questid=151265

http://www.rapidonline.com/productin...23 6#techspec





"Nick" wrote in message
...
I am just coming to the end of my old 60:40 tin/lead fluxed solder and
after a quick look it seems that
old style solder is not easy to find - if at all.

I did read something about this months / years ago, saying it is not as
easy to use, but forgot to stock up at the time

Can anyone bring me up to date with the new stuff, suitable fluxes or
whether the old stuff is actually available.

I don't use much, generally for small PCB repairs and every soldering, so
a 500 gram would last me ages

Thanks,
Nick





Highland Ham November 18th 07 03:09 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
I am just coming to the end of my old 60:40 tin/lead fluxed solder
and after a quick look it seems that
old style solder is not easy to find - if at all.

I did read something about this months / years ago, saying it is not
as easy to use, but forgot to stock up at the time

Can anyone bring me up to date with the new stuff, suitable fluxes
or whether the old stuff is actually available.

I don't use much, generally for small PCB repairs and every
soldering, so a 500 gram would last me ages

=============================
60/40 solder is no longer officially sold in the UK but may still be
available at rallys.
Last month when in the Netherlands I bought 1kg of the stuff with 1mm
diameter from Baco Army Goods BV- NL1976BM IJmuiden for Euro 21
(roughly GBP 14)
The shop is near the harbour not far from where the ferry from/to
Newcastle has its berth.
www.baco-army-goods.nl (Dutch language web site)

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

Jeff November 18th 07 03:51 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
60/40 solder is no longer officially sold in the UK but may still be
available at rallys.



That is not correct solder with a lead content is still permissible for the
repair of existing equipment.

73
Jeff



Ian White GM3SEK November 18th 07 04:17 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
Highland Ham wrote:
60/40 solder is no longer officially sold in the UK


Yes, it is - by the suppliers already quoted and many more.

The main reason is to support the continued use of tin/lead solder for
repairs to existing tin/lead soldered equipment. This also ensures a
continuing supply for home construction, which is specifically excluded
from the RoHS regulations:
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/pdf/faq_weee.pdf
(see question 1.15).

An amateur constructor is only *required* to use lead-free solder when
repairing a product that was put on the market after July 2006, and was
therefore 'born lead-free'.

The only significant UK electronics distributor that doesn't sell
regular tin/lead solder is Maplin. That is because they jumped to
conclusions without reading the regulations, and still haven't realised.


--

73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

art November 18th 07 04:23 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
On 18 Nov, 07:51, "Jeff" wrote:
60/40 solder is no longer officially sold in the UK but may still be
available at rallys.


That is not correct solder with a lead content is still permissible for the
repair of existing equipment.

73
Jeff


E Bay, I bought my stock last year for my own use
Art

Ian Jackson[_2_] November 18th 07 05:05 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
In message , Jeff
writes
60/40 solder is no longer officially sold in the UK but may still be
available at rallys.



That is not correct solder with a lead content is still permissible for the
repair of existing equipment.


A month ago, they were selling small quantities of 60/40 solder at
(effectively) very high prices at the Heighley Gate garden centre, near
Morpeth (Northumberland).
http://www.heighleygate.com
http://www.pb-free.info/rohsexemptions.htm
--
Ian

Roy Lewallen November 18th 07 11:00 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
I'm surprised that 60/40 solder is apparently so common. For a very long
time I've used 63/37, which is eutectic. This means it has the lowest
melting point temperature for that combination of metals, but more
importantly, it has no plastic state. It goes abruptly from liquid
directly to solid as it cools.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Highland Ham November 18th 07 11:57 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
The main reason is to support the continued use of tin/lead solder for
repairs to existing tin/lead soldered equipment. This also ensures a
continuing supply for home construction, which is specifically excluded
from the RoHS regulations:
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/pdf/faq_weee.pdf
(see question 1.15).

An amateur constructor is only *required* to use lead-free solder when
repairing a product that was put on the market after July 2006, and was
therefore 'born lead-free'.

=========
Does the above mean that all CE labeled equipment put on market after
July 2006 has been constructed with Lead free solder ? Also for example
equipment from outside the EU , like American made TenTec equipment (now
CE approved), because it would be a requirement for CE labeling , or has
this type of labeling nothing to do with actual construction methods ?

The only significant UK electronics distributor that doesn't sell
regular tin/lead solder is Maplin. That is because they jumped to
conclusions without reading the regulations, and still haven't realised.

=============
Tnx Ian ,very useful to know.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


Sal M. Onella November 19th 07 05:05 AM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...

For a very long
time I've used 63/37, which is eutectic. This means it has the lowest
melting point temperature for that combination of metals, but more
importantly, it has no plastic state. It goes abruptly from liquid
directly to solid as it cools.


I have some of this and grab it occasionally. It _seems_ that it does not
flow quite so readily as the 60/40. This may be my imagination or perhaps
an issue of external flux being needed. Comments?



Roy Lewallen November 19th 07 05:15 AM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...

For a very long
time I've used 63/37, which is eutectic. This means it has the lowest
melting point temperature for that combination of metals, but more
importantly, it has no plastic state. It goes abruptly from liquid
directly to solid as it cools.


I have some of this and grab it occasionally. It _seems_ that it does not
flow quite so readily as the 60/40. This may be my imagination or perhaps
an issue of external flux being needed. Comments?


Sounds to me like your 63/37 might contain a less activated flux.
There's a lot of variation among fluxes.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Jeff November 19th 07 08:34 AM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 

" =========
Does the above mean that all CE labeled equipment put on market after July
2006 has been constructed with Lead free solder ? Also for example
equipment from outside the EU , like American made TenTec equipment (now
CE approved), because it would be a requirement for CE labeling , or has
this type of labeling nothing to do with actual construction methods ?


Yes, in order to put the CE mark on equipment it must meet all of the EU
requirements for that type of product.

Jeff



Ian White GM3SEK November 19th 07 09:01 AM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
Highland Ham wrote:
The main reason is to support the continued use of tin/lead solder for
repairs to existing tin/lead soldered equipment. This also ensures a
continuing supply for home construction, which is specifically
excluded from the RoHS regulations:
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/pdf/faq_weee.pdf
(see question 1.15).
An amateur constructor is only *required* to use lead-free solder
when repairing a product that was put on the market after July 2006,
and was therefore 'born lead-free'.

=========
Does the above mean that all CE labeled equipment put on market after
July 2006 has been constructed with Lead free solder ?


What we can say is that all equipment put on the market in the EU since
July 2006 *should* contain no lead or any of the other banned substances
(eg hexavalent chromium used for metal passivation).

The CE label attests that the product meets all relevant standards, but
I don't know absolutely for certain if that now includes RoHS
compliance. (We might imagine it would be, or should be - but that can
often be a trap. The only thing that counts is what the regulations
actually DO SAY.)


Also for example equipment from outside the EU , like American made
TenTec equipment (now CE approved), because it would be a requirement
for CE labeling , or has this type of labeling nothing to do with
actual construction methods ?


As I said, I'm not sure. You'd have to ask the manufacturer.

(Officially there is no such category as "CE approved" - it's another
one of those imagined things.)


--

73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

Nick November 19th 07 09:31 AM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 
Thanks to all for the many replies

Cheers,

Nick



Jeff November 19th 07 01:29 PM

IN UK - does anyone sell old style solder anymore ?
 

"Does the above mean that all CE labeled equipment put on market after
July 2006 has been constructed with Lead free solder ?


What we can say is that all equipment put on the market in the EU since
July 2006 *should* contain no lead or any of the other banned substances
(eg hexavalent chromium used for metal passivation).

The CE label attests that the product meets all relevant standards, but I
don't know absolutely for certain if that now includes RoHS compliance.
(We might imagine it would be, or should be - but that can often be a
trap. The only thing that counts is what the regulations actually DO SAY.)


Also for example equipment from outside the EU , like American made TenTec
equipment (now CE approved), because it would be a requirement for CE
labeling , or has this type of labeling nothing to do with actual
construction methods ?


As I said, I'm not sure. You'd have to ask the manufacturer.

(Officially there is no such category as "CE approved" - it's another one
of those imagined things.)


Our club certainly had to wait for the delivery of a Kantronics tnc whist
they re-worked it to meet RoHS, before they could CE mark it and get it into
the EU.

73
Jeff




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