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Old December 3rd 07, 10:10 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Gene Fuller wrote:
So you think an EM wave cannot travel 10 inches in 3 ns? Try again.


Nice attempt at a diversion, Gene. What I said is that a
4 MHz EM wave cannot travel 10 inches in 3 ns through a
2" dia, 100 turn loading coil. If you disagree, please
feel free to prove me wrong.

Cecil insists that an 80 meter loading coil behaves nearly the same as
one of Corum's quarter-wave resonators. Others believe the coil behavior
is closer to a lumped circuit model.


The entire rest of the antenna is ten degrees. Why wouldn't
a 75m loading coil operate nearly the same as Corum's 1/4WL
resonators??? Are Maxwell's laws different for loaded mobile
antennas or for Corum's coils?
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:
So you think an EM wave cannot travel 10 inches in 3 ns? Try again.


Nice attempt at a diversion, Gene. What I said is that a
4 MHz EM wave cannot travel 10 inches in 3 ns through a
2" dia, 100 turn loading coil. If you disagree, please
feel free to prove me wrong.

Cecil insists that an 80 meter loading coil behaves nearly the same as
one of Corum's quarter-wave resonators. Others believe the coil
behavior is closer to a lumped circuit model.


The entire rest of the antenna is ten degrees. Why wouldn't
a 75m loading coil operate nearly the same as Corum's 1/4WL
resonators??? Are Maxwell's laws different for loaded mobile
antennas or for Corum's coils?


What diversion?

I was responding directly to a statement from Dan. This issue is at the
crux of the controversy. The entire question is whether waves can leap
tall buildings with a single bound or whether they must climb the
stairs. Have you forgotten everything????

The detailed technical content in "Why wouldn't" is noted. That debate
technique generally solves lots of issues.

8-)

73,
Gene
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