On 5 Dec, 22:27, (Richard Harrison) wrote:
Art wrote:

"O.K. you win Richard."

It isn`t a competition. It`s a discussion. Art is aware that the
electric field vector is at right angles to the magnetic field vector
and that both are at right angles with the direction of propagation.

When the receiver`s electric vector is aligned with the transmitter`s,
their magnetic vectors are in alignment too. Communications couldn`t be
better to the best of my knowledge. With circular or elliptical
polarization, we worry about right hand or left hand polarizations, but
I`m assuming linear polarizations. There is a wave tilt associated with
propagation along a lossy surface, but I`ll be darned if I can grasp
Art`s tilt factor.

Best regards, RRichard Harrison, KB5WZI

That is because you quote outdated technology and have lost the means
of deduction for yourself. You are not alone. Apparently the group
itself are in the same boat. Somehow it seems a bit rediculous that
we have a group for discussing antennas where NONE can deduce the
most efficient angle of a radiator with respect to ground when
desiring maximum horizontal polarisation gain with the majority
having possesion of an "american" degree!
It seems rediculous that a argument on just a coil can go on for years
with nothing to show for it other than talking about it forever
and displaying their ever growing testerone level in a fashion that
pushes aside all other discussion. If you were willing to accept
computor
aids in your life and learn how to use them you could leapfrog
into the present age. But you are to lazy and to old and unwilling to
change
thus relying on a education that is over fifty years old.
You just cannot have reasonable communication on antennas or
anything else by disregarding present science and substitute insults
in the place of knoweledge ,or for that matter, quoting a books
writings
not pertinant to the subject at hand.It makes no sense for anybody
that
is interested in antennas is not interested or care about any radiator
other than those that are planar . That also goes for the naval
academy in
Washington and NASA and other institutions.
Art