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AI4QJ wrote:
. . . When other people complianed of noise, it was a common practice for them to use 2 transceivers or a transmitter with a separate receiver on 75 80m. The transmitter of course was tuned as close to 1:1 as possible but the receiver was tuned to a higher VSWR to 'tune-out' the noise, yet the signals higher than noise came through very well. I was actually quite surprized to find out how much noise there was on 75-80m when I was actually able to transmit/receiver at a VSWR close to 1:1. This was/is something other people do routinely and is somewhat better than an old wivws tale. Of course, by not tuning in the noise, you risk not tuning in the very weak stations but you can come to an accomodation where you hear mostly what you want to hear while getting rid of noise. The attenuate button does not work as well for this (my opinion). If so, what do you suppose the mechanism is by which the shorter antenna distinguishes between signal and noise? If the antenna has a high VSWR, although you cannot transmit efficiently, signals significantly stronger than noise level can still be received, or so I think as do others. I am not sure at this time 'why' the gain of the noise is not comparable to that of stronger signals when adjusting the receicver for normal listening volumes. But when listing at 80m, you can simply take a 20 foot piece of wire and hang it indoors and you will hear a lot of stations quite clearly and the noise level will be much lower than when you tune it resonant. . . . Certainly the noise level will be lower than when you match the antenna. but so will the signals. In exactly the same ratio. And if you can hear the signals clearly with the short antenna, you can hear them just as clearly with the longer one -- unless you're overdriving something to the point of nonlinearity with the longer antenna. If you think you're actually improving the signal/noise ratio by mismatching the antenna, then you've claiming that mismatching has somehow given it the ability to tell the difference between what you regard as "signal" and what you regard as "noise" even though both are presumably on the same frequency. Or perhaps if the signal and noise are coming from a different direction, the mismatch is causing a change in the antenna's directional pattern. Neither of these fits with any known theory, so I'd have to see some really solid quantitative measurements to be convinced this is more than an old wives' tale. (And even then, I'd be looking very hard for an explanation that fits the theory which has suited us so well for over a century.) Mismatching the antenna should do no more nor less than turning down the RF gain control. Have you tried doing that instead? Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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