Dave Heil wrote:
Please note that I now say and have
previously written that I do not believe that the Sun rises, sets or
travels across the sky.

Very good, that is all I was trying to get you to admit -
that the "rising of the sun" is an illusion which was
my original point.

Incidentally, Webster's says the sun does actually rise. :-)
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com