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I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

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Ken Fowler wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Hello Ken,

From your comment, it appears that you
are seeing all new posts to the group in
chronological order. That can be very
frustrating.

You may not be aware that most
newsreaders will sort messages by thread
if so instructed. That way an entire
thread consisting of even thousands of
posts will appear in your newsreader as
a single header (unexpanded). There are
usually no more than a few new threads
per day on the newsgroup so you can
choose which threads you want to follow
without seeing any posts to the threads
that don't interest you. Sort of like
scanning the headlines. When you see a
thread of interest, you can expand it
and see the headers of all the posts in
that thread.

You can't control which threads are
posted to the newsgroup, but you can
make it easier to read only those that
interest you.

73,
Chuck
NT3G

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:45 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:


......
He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

And if he doesn't, we (at least I) can live with that.


w.

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On Dec 31, 5:06*am, Helmut Wabnig hwabnig@ .- --- -. DOT .- t wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:45 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:
......
He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

And if he doesn't, we (at least I) can live with that.

w.

So that means we need to filter him....

denny

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:09:35 -0800 (PST), Denny
wrote:

On Dec 31, 5:06*am, Helmut Wabnig hwabnig@ .- --- -. DOT .- t wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:45 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:
......
He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

And if he doesn't, we (at least I) can live with that.

w.

So that means we need to filter him....

Well, it means that it is useless to complain about uselessnet,
aka usenet.
w.

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:55:25 GMT, Ken Fowler wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name.

So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks.

And, _that_ would be a Great Loss .... how?


Using a Real Newsreader, you could block by Subject: (as well as by
poster.) I find that even before I read a new troll posting, it is
_easily_ identifiable by both Subject: content and poster id. I mark it
for killing (by Subject:) for nn days and never have to encounter
anything in that thread again. Some logic if the poster is killfiled
here and I don't see the Subject: until the first followup to the troll.


Sigh. Over the years this Once Great ng covering antennas has been
slowly overtaken by a handful of twits.

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2
*** Killfiling google posts: http://jonz.net/ng.htm

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From: "AI4QJ"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna
References:

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"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Ken Fowler wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to
snip

Hello Ken,

From your comment, it appears that you are seeing all new posts to the
group in chronological order. That can be very frustrating.

snip
You may not be aware that most newsreaders will sort messages by thread
snip
You can't control which threads are posted to the newsgroup, but you
can
make it easier to read only those that interest you.

It appears that his source is http://www.giganews.com which is web based.

They probably have options for sorting by date, thread etc. I think you
are
correct. He should structure his viewing on giganews in such as a way as
to
only view the threads of interest. He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

For what it's worth, I use NewsRover to read news. GigaNews is only the
source. I' not sure what is a "normal newsreader". *nix people have their
favorites and google news people have no contro. I know how to use Outlook
but NewsRover gives me much more control. I can filter on header content
or message content in a variety of Boolean ways. I can also block senders
if the sender doesn't fake his post address.

If you don't know the capabilities of News Rover you can check it out on
SandH.com. It is as perfect at retrieving threads as a newsreader can be.
And yes, I can kill threads by subject if the authors don't keep messing
around with the Subject. In this case, the newsgroup was so dominated by a
single poster that blocking made more sense to me. So yes, I am
structuring my viewing so as to only see the threads of interest.

Now back to discussions about antennas. 73 and Happy New Year.

Ken

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Sorry to top post (just wanted to get your attention), but while you're at
it, can you do anything about this M I-5 (& variations thereof). I've been
putting in message rules but they don't seem to work. Talk about abuse.

HankG
"Ken Fowler" wrote in message
...
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to
post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have
not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about
antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am
able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:14:38 -0500, HankG wrote:
Sorry to top post (just wanted to get your attention), but while you're at
it, can you do anything about this M I-5 (& variations thereof). I've been
putting in message rules but they don't seem to work. Talk about abuse.

individual.net

The crap from _that particular_ slimeball rarely appears on their spools.

Ditto for the hipcrime slimeball, and numerous others.

Jonesy

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On Dec 30, 5:55*pm, "Ken Fowler" wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. *But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. *So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. *So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. *I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. *From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am able
to read. *73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Ken
You have a direct line with Yahoo who aids and abets kb9...
If they don't care who they support then drop them.
Yahoo is probably happy with what their customers are doing
on the net. Ofcourse if MI5 can't get the other guy write
a letter to the CIA they would know what to do.
Art

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:14:38 -0500, "HankG" wrote:

Sorry to top post (just wanted to get your attention), but while you're at
it, can you do anything about this M I-5 (& variations thereof). I've been
putting in message rules but they don't seem to work. Talk about abuse.

Hi Hank,

As Ken offers, there are better readers than Outlook (the one you are
using). Mine is Agent, so I can answer for it. I used the free
version a dozen years ago, and bought the commercial version right
away. It allows for "regular expressions" in filters. With very few
of them, they wipe out a lot of trash. Of course, you have to be a
*nix wizard to know how to craft "regular expressions" but it also has
simpler rule structures that can cover a lot of ground too.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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Can you do the same for the M15 spammer as well.
Dave Lush
AU
"art" wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 5:55 pm, "Ken Fowler" wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to
post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am
able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Ken
You have a direct line with Yahoo who aids and abets kb9...
If they don't care who they support then drop them.
Yahoo is probably happy with what their customers are doing
on the net. Ofcourse if MI5 can't get the other guy write
a letter to the CIA they would know what to do.
Art

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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:54:25 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:

They seem very adept at making themselves
unflilterable.

In fact they make it quite easy to filter by their own vanity. My
filter is only 7 characters long (written as a regular expression
M.I.5.P) and I have never seen a posting since adding it.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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art wrote:

[...]

If you really want a "cast iron" filter, and you have the time to
study/learn the complexities of operation:

http://www.nfilter.org/

Regards,
JS

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John Smith wrote:
[...]

Scratch that, just seen that it isn't being maintained anymore and the
installer didn't work which I just downloaded to try ... hmmm, wonder if
anyone ever came up with anything similar?

In its' day, it worked great ...

Regards,
JS

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On 1 Jan, 18:54, "AI4QJ" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

...
On Dec 30, 5:55 pm, "Ken Fowler" wrote:

I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to
post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am
able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

"Ken
You have a direct line with Yahoo who aids and abets kb9...
If they don't care who they support then drop them.
Yahoo is probably happy with what their customers are doing
on the net. Ofcourse if MI5 can't get the other guy write
a letter to the CIA they would know what to do."

Art, I suspect the problem with MI5 is the drastic reduction in funding due
to the end of the cold war. One would think with the guy going to Canada and
Florida the MI6 could step in and make a good hit without the assistance of
the CIA. The CIA today is rather useless, not being able to even estimate
Iranian WMD capability much less using electromagnetism to effect mind
control :-)

More seriously, my theory is that this MI5 is a prank that started at the
psychology department of some UK university and the students carry it on as
a tradition year after year. They seem very adept at making themselves
unflilterable.

If MI5 could only stop him from coming back they would have 100% of my
support ;-)

I don't think it is organised,just a couple of wierdos. You have the
one
guy who lives in South London and then the other wierdo who lives way
up
North of Chicago. Actually they are so wierd that they don't even
communicate
with each other. Neither of the them work because of mental disability
which is not a bad thing as when they are caught they can be put in a
looney bin for a long while. Eventually somebody who lives nearby
will pay them a little visit and present them with a parcel or
something.
Fortunately their posts are easily recognisable so one can move on.
If the fphantom wave thing goes on much longer I may have to
communicate
with both of these wierdoos for a change in pace!
Art

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AI4QJ wrote:
SNIP

More seriously, my theory is that this MI5 is a prank that started at the
psychology department of some UK university and the students carry it on as
a tradition year after year. They seem very adept at making themselves
unflilterable.

If MI5 could only stop him from coming back they would have 100% of my
support ;-)


See http://www.five.org.uk/ or http://www.mi5.com/ Beware, there
tons of material there. This is the work of one very unwell man.


Charlie.

--
M0WYM
www.radiowymsey.org

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charlie wrote:

[...]

Well, I attempt to give everyone a "listen", this post has certainly
surpassed that ... THREAD PLONK!

JS

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John Smith wrote:
charlie wrote:

[...]

Well, I attempt to give everyone a "listen", this post has certainly
surpassed that ... THREAD PLONK!

JS


GAWD whatta twit.