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Old January 8th 08, 12:41 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On 7 Jan, 15:20, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator in equilibrium.


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I decided to try your search method, which returned about 363,000 hits.

If you want to prove your belief, you would do well to post the URL
to whatever website(s) you claim will do so.

RF


Yes, that would help if hams were intersted but they are not.They do
not agree that a diamagnetic field is different to any other field and
the ham radio books will not tell them otherwise. Look at the simple
math of adding a time varient field to Gaussian law makes it exactly
the same as Maxwells law.but hams will not accept the math. Is it any
wonder that manufacturers are going overseas for engineers because
american education is one of rote. If you add up the post graduates
working on research at any american university foreign graduates out
number american students. Micro soft wants more engineers , not from
America tho. As far as the URL it was the first one on the list If
hams were interested in ham radio for other than only talking they
would have no problem finding it. Fact is that they have no idea what
a diamagnetic material actualy is or why they should care. I doubt
that it is even mentioned anywhere by the ARRL.I wonder why you are
checking things out,as an engineer you should be aware of the facts
already.Not one ham on this newsgroup could verfy the shape of a
diamagnetic
field wth respect to current flow. Yet all consider themselves as
competant enough to describe a bouncing wave even tho they don't know
the qualities required for a radiation material.
Art
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Art wrote:
"I wonder why you are checking things out, as an engineer you should be
aware of facts already."

A fact is a reality. An opinion lacking credible testimony is not a
proven fact.

Wave tilt is a known phenomenon. A wave traveling along the surface of
the earth is slightly slowed by the earth, so it seems to tilt slightly
in its direction of travel, like "dragging its feet".

A wave reflected by grazing a surface has an angle of reflection equal
to its angle of incidence. An incoming wave reflected by the ionosphere
has a tilt with respect to the horizontal.

A Beverage antenna can be as simple as a wire supported at low altitude
above the earth, and a seeming paradox is that although horizontal, the
wire is sensitive to vertically polarized waves. Despite Art`s
questioning that hams would know about wave tilt, an ARRL publication,
ON4UN`s "Low-Band DXing", begins its chapter on Special Receiving
Antennas with the Beverage.

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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On 7 Jan, 19:23, (Richard Harrison) wrote:
Art wrote:

"I wonder why you are checking things out, as an engineer you should be
aware of facts already."

A fact is a reality. An opinion lacking credible testimony is not a
proven fact.

Wave tilt is a known phenomenon. A wave traveling along the surface of
the earth is slightly slowed by the earth, so it seems to tilt slightly
in its direction of travel, like "dragging its feet".

A wave reflected by grazing a surface has an angle of reflection equal
to its angle of incidence. An incoming wave reflected by the ionosphere
has a tilt with respect to the horizontal.

A Beverage antenna can be as simple as a wire supported at low altitude
above the earth, and a seeming paradox is that although horizontal, the
wire is sensitive to vertically polarized waves. Despite Art`s
questioning that hams would know about wave tilt, an ARRL publication,
ON4UN`s "Low-Band DXing", begins its chapter on Special Receiving
Antennas with the Beverage.

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


I understand that a diamagnetic field is oriented differently to the
norm
Thus a diamagnetic field on a radiator is different to the norm.
This I see as the lynch pin of radiation. Hams do not recognise what
science has found for some reason. There is not a physics based ham on
the group that will explain this type of field
and it was not known by Terman so the dark ages persist. Also I claim
no new discoveries. Every thing I have described is documented on
Google which you do not have the ability to check out....Tough.You
don't know how to use an antenna computor program so you can't see
tilt for your self. You are in sad shape.If you can point to anything
that I stated is NOT fact
then speak up with the details and share with the group
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Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


I will be more blunt.
Art with his crap about stupid hams, lousy education system in US and other
incoherent rants here and on eHam is poor picture of Ham and nuisance troll
that is so "brilliant" that can't even spell or use proper words for things.
I was hoping to spot a grain of something that perhaps would lead to
something new or something that we overlooked, but the cup has spilled over
with crap and mumbo jumbo and time to ignore anything that is coming out of
"art".
Sayonara, plonk!!!


bada BUm


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