electro-magnetic radiation
 

I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator
in equilibrium. Shades of a diamagnetic field no less, which is not
the same as one seen when one uses non diamagnetic iron filings when
in junior high school.
These search engines are great since the evidence keeps piling up
where sooner or later the dam is going to break.Remember that guy who
came along with a NEC program that confirmed the tipped radiator. No
body challenged the results of NEC even when it opposed existing book
text! Why? They did not want to suggest that the books were in error
and thus would not debate the reults given independently.
Art

electro-magnetic radiation
 

"art" wrote
I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator in equilibrium.
______

"art"

I decided to try your search method, which returned about 363,000 hits.

If you want to prove your belief, you would do well to post the URL
to whatever website(s) you claim will do so.

RF

electro-magnetic radiation
 

On 7 Jan, 15:20, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator in equilibrium.

______

"art"

I decided to try your search method, which returned about 363,000 hits.

If you want to prove your belief, you would do well to post the URL
to whatever website(s) you claim will do so.

RF

Yes, that would help if hams were intersted but they are not.They do
not agree that a diamagnetic field is different to any other field and
the ham radio books will not tell them otherwise. Look at the simple
math of adding a time varient field to Gaussian law makes it exactly
the same as Maxwells law.but hams will not accept the math. Is it any
wonder that manufacturers are going overseas for engineers because
american education is one of rote. If you add up the post graduates
working on research at any american university foreign graduates out
number american students. Micro soft wants more engineers , not from
America tho. As far as the URL it was the first one on the list If
hams were interested in ham radio for other than only talking they
would have no problem finding it. Fact is that they have no idea what
a diamagnetic material actualy is or why they should care. I doubt
that it is even mentioned anywhere by the ARRL.I wonder why you are
checking things out,as an engineer you should be aware of the facts
already.Not one ham on this newsgroup could verfy the shape of a
diamagnetic
field wth respect to current flow. Yet all consider themselves as
competant enough to describe a bouncing wave even tho they don't know
the qualities required for a radiation material.
Art

electro-magnetic radiation
 

Art wrote:
"I wonder why you are checking things out, as an engineer you should be
aware of facts already."

A fact is a reality. An opinion lacking credible testimony is not a
proven fact.

Wave tilt is a known phenomenon. A wave traveling along the surface of
the earth is slightly slowed by the earth, so it seems to tilt slightly
in its direction of travel, like "dragging its feet".

A wave reflected by grazing a surface has an angle of reflection equal
to its angle of incidence. An incoming wave reflected by the ionosphere
has a tilt with respect to the horizontal.

A Beverage antenna can be as simple as a wire supported at low altitude
above the earth, and a seeming paradox is that although horizontal, the
wire is sensitive to vertically polarized waves. Despite Art`s
questioning that hams would know about wave tilt, an ARRL publication,
ON4UN`s "Low-Band DXing", begins its chapter on Special Receiving
Antennas with the Beverage.

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

electro-magnetic radiation
 

On 7 Jan, 19:23, (Richard Harrison) wrote:
Art wrote:

"I wonder why you are checking things out, as an engineer you should be
aware of facts already."

A fact is a reality. An opinion lacking credible testimony is not a
proven fact.

Wave tilt is a known phenomenon. A wave traveling along the surface of
the earth is slightly slowed by the earth, so it seems to tilt slightly
in its direction of travel, like "dragging its feet".

A wave reflected by grazing a surface has an angle of reflection equal
to its angle of incidence. An incoming wave reflected by the ionosphere
has a tilt with respect to the horizontal.

A Beverage antenna can be as simple as a wire supported at low altitude
above the earth, and a seeming paradox is that although horizontal, the
wire is sensitive to vertically polarized waves. Despite Art`s
questioning that hams would know about wave tilt, an ARRL publication,
ON4UN`s "Low-Band DXing", begins its chapter on Special Receiving
Antennas with the Beverage.

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

I understand that a diamagnetic field is oriented differently to the
norm
Thus a diamagnetic field on a radiator is different to the norm.
This I see as the lynch pin of radiation. Hams do not recognise what
science has found for some reason. There is not a physics based ham on
the group that will explain this type of field
and it was not known by Terman so the dark ages persist. Also I claim
no new discoveries. Every thing I have described is documented on
Google which you do not have the ability to check out....Tough.You
don't know how to use an antenna computor program so you can't see
tilt for your self. You are in sad shape.If you can point to anything
that I stated is NOT fact
then speak up with the details and share with the group

electro-magnetic radiation
 

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


I will be more blunt.
Art with his crap about stupid hams, lousy education system in US and other
incoherent rants here and on eHam is poor picture of Ham and nuisance troll
that is so "brilliant" that can't even spell or use proper words for things.
I was hoping to spot a grain of something that perhaps would lead to
something new or something that we overlooked, but the cup has spilled over
with crap and mumbo jumbo and time to ignore anything that is coming out of
"art".
Sayonara, plonk!!!


bada BUm

electro-magnetic radiation
 

art wrote:

...
Art

When I fire up my rig, the one composed of an electric motor
(constructed with recovered metal from the Roswell crash) spinning at
1,000,000 R.P.S., with the neodymium magnet attached to the shaft--what
do you thing the wave(s) look like? How are protons being released from
the static field of the magnets poles? Can't the need for a media
(properties of which are unknown/unexplored) which can be "excited" be
easily visualized?

Warm regards,
JS

electro-magnetic radiation
 

On 8 Jan, 10:33, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:

* ...

Art

snip
Warm regards,
JS

http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.
Read, think for your self and then decide why the use of
aluminium is relavent to our hobby. I have also placed an
abstract on the forming of radiation on E Ham forum to get
as wide a distribution as I could. Hopefully this will a new
beginning for ham radio. Also get an optimiser computor
program to obtain the tipping angle of a radiator for your self.
Google for information every time you are unsure. For goodness
sake don't guess but follow the lead of present day science.
Somebody will burst out without reading or thinking.
Is that person going to be you?
Very best regards
Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)

electro-magnetic radiation
 

art wrote:

...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.

Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)

I would be more than willing to read it, as with most, however, that
page, in my browser, results in an 404 error (page not found) and a
redirect to this page:

http://www.motionnet.com/

Which is a rip off ...

Regards,
JS

electro-magnetic radiation
 

On 8 Jan, 17:57, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:
...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.
Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)

I would be more than willing to read it, as with most, however, that
page, in my browser, results in an 404 error (page not found) and a
redirect to this page:

http://www.motionnet.com/

Which is a rip off ...

Regards,
JS

I'm sorry. I did the best I could. I am not computor savvy as you are
Again apologies
Art

electro-magnetic radiation
 

art wrote:
On 8 Jan, 17:57, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:
...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml
Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.
Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)
I would be more than willing to read it, as with most, however, that
page, in my browser, results in an 404 error (page not found) and a
redirect to this page:

http://www.motionnet.com/

Which is a rip off ...

Regards,
JS

I'm sorry. I did the best I could. I am not computor savvy as you are
Again apologies
Art

No problem Art, perhaps my browser has been hijacked?

I was just hoping you could provide a link which would present the page
to me. I will download "hijack this" and search for
spyware/malware/trojans/etc., in the meantime ...

Warm regards,
JS

electro-magnetic radiation-URL fixed
 

art wrote:
....
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

try
http://www.sensorsmag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

electro-magnetic radiation-URL fixed
 

gwatts wrote:
art wrote:
...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

try
http://www.sensorsmag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Thanks gwatts--that does it!

Regards,
JS

electro-magnetic radiation-URL fixed
 

"gwatts" wrote in message
...
art wrote:
...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

try
http://www.sensorsmag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

and just what does that page have to do with em waves?

electro-magnetic radiation-URL fixed
 

Dave wrote:

...
and just what does that page have to do with em waves?



Hmmm, maybe better to ask, "What does electro-magnetism have to do with
magnetic fields"--you will get more answers ... sounds like you know
what you are speaking about, also.

JS

electro-magnetic radiation
 

John Smith wrote:
art wrote:

...
Art

When I fire up my rig, the one composed of an electric motor
(constructed with recovered metal from the Roswell crash) spinning at
1,000,000 R.P.S., with the neodymium magnet attached to the shaft--what
do you thing the wave(s) look like? How are protons being released from
the static field of the magnets poles? Can't the need for a media
(properties of which are unknown/unexplored) which can be "excited" be
easily visualized?

Warm regards,
JS

OK. Let me go further then. If I were to allow "speculation" on the
existence of the ether--than I could further expand this "speculation"
to allow for a "lag" in the ether--and "to" that of the spinning
magnetic fields--and, if such "speculation" were allowed, then going one
step further would allow for the possibility of the "deformation" of the
"wave" thus generated by such a "lag" ...

Regards,
JS

electro-magnetic radiation
 

AI4QJ wrote:
"art" wrote in message
...
I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator
in equilibrium. Shades of a diamagnetic field no less, which is not
the same as one seen when one uses non diamagnetic iron filings when
in junior high school.
These search engines are great since the evidence keeps piling up
where sooner or later the dam is going to break.Remember that guy who
came along with a NEC program that confirmed the tipped radiator. No
body challenged the results of NEC even when it opposed existing book
text! Why? They did not want to suggest that the books were in error
and thus would not debate the reults given independently.
Art

The casual reader of the ng should realize that this insane posting is not
representative of the technical background of ham radio operators.



Nor are the posts of AI4QJ.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

electro-magnetic radiation
 

"AI4QJ" wrote in message
...

"Tom Donaly" wrote in message
. ..
AI4QJ wrote:
"art" wrote in message
...
I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator
in equilibrium. Shades of a diamagnetic field no less, which is not
the same as one seen when one uses non diamagnetic iron filings when
in junior high school.
These search engines are great since the evidence keeps piling up
where sooner or later the dam is going to break.Remember that guy who
came along with a NEC program that confirmed the tipped radiator. No
body challenged the results of NEC even when it opposed existing book
text! Why? They did not want to suggest that the books were in error
and thus would not debate the reults given independently.
Art

The casual reader of the ng should realize that this insane posting is
not representative of the technical background of ham radio operators.

Nor are the posts of AI4QJ.

plonk


at least ai4qj recognizes pure bs when he sees it.

electro-magnetic radiation
 

On 18 Jan, 04:58, "Dave" wrote:
"AI4QJ" wrote in message

...







"Tom Donaly" wrote in message
...
AI4QJ wrote:
"art" wrote in message
...
I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator
in equilibrium. Shades of a diamagnetic field no less, which is not
the same as one seen when one uses non diamagnetic iron filings when
in junior high school.
These search engines are great since the evidence keeps piling up
where sooner or later the dam is going to break.Remember that guy who
came along with a NEC program that confirmed the tipped radiator. No
body challenged the results of NEC even when it opposed existing book
text! Why? They did not want to suggest that the books were in error
and thus would not debate the reults given independently.
Art

The casual reader of the ng should realize that this insane posting is
not representative of the technical background of ham radio operators.

Nor are the posts of AI4QJ.

plonk

at least ai4qj recognizes pure bs when he sees it.- Hide quoted text -

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David, your denial of the mathematics of adding a time varying field
to Gaussian law to make it equal to Maxwell's laws doesn't make it
change. The mathematics is there, but since you can't handle integrals
you chose to deny it and accuse others of poor mathematics.I don't
know where you got your mathematics teachings other than it was
probably in the U.S.Let me assure you once again, the mathematics is
sound, the doctor from MIT made the mathematical steps very clear to
all on the group yet this group, including you, denied the integrity
of the math.
The results from new math is inherrently the same as old mathematics
and your BS does not cancel that fact, even tho the group followed you
into that same pit.
Have a happy day.
Art Unwin KB9MZ..XG (uk)