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Art Unwin wrote:

John, the danger in using mc squared is that it has not stood the test
of time.

Next thing he'll claim is that nuclear fission doesn't release energy.

tom
K0TAR

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Art Unwin wrote:

...
John, the danger in using mc squared is that it has not stood the test
of time. I have difficulty with it as the motion of an observer
acheiving the speed of light seems like standing on a sand spar
waiting for the tide to come in. Same goes with Feynman diagrams
as it just replaces an unknown with another unknown! Are these both
emporers with no clothes surrounded by Lemmings?
Art

Well, darn Art, those nuclear explosions, yanno', like the ones "we"
used to do in Nevada ... those flying particles, the heat, the light,
the radiation, the sand blast, the wind!, etc., it is hard enough to
keep track of all that c*rp flying about, at those speeds (not to
mention the amount of sun screen a guy needs just to be in vicinity!),
it is hard to arrive at an exact tally when, it is all over--yanno' what
I mean, Vern? ;-)

Regards,
JS

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On Sep 16, 8:05*pm, John Smith wrote:

So, look on the bright-side! *Once you have proven Art wrong, you have
really done nothing at all!

Now how about that? WISDOM! I have to give credit where credit is due.

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On Sep 16, 7:48*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Rectifier wrote:
Radiation has no mass ...

On the contrary, radiation is photons which indeed
do have mass when traveling at the speed of light,
which radiation does.

According to Einstein, anything with energy has mass equivalence -
especially photons. *But other than that, nothing with mass can travel
at the speed of light. *You can have one, or the other, not both.

73, ac6xg

True, travel is something less than the speed of light
Art

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On Sep 16, 9:57*pm, John Smith wrote:
wrote:
...
Correction: Photons have no rest mass. "radiated" photons have the
properties of mass because they are affected by gravitation. Light can
be bent by large bodies of mass.

Oh sure, they have a "perceived mass", don't they?; I mean, we seem to
be able to measure it, don't we? *How do you know it "exists ALL ITS
TRAVEL TIME", what makes you think it is not constantly oscillating for
energy to mass ... and it is ONLY the average of that which we are
REALLY measuring ... can you prove that, well, CAN YOU? *Can you provide
any relevant data here to prove it? *Any URLs? *Any quotes from famous
physicists? *Any psychics? *Have you consulted Art? *again-innocent-smile

But then, you ever try to run along side of one of those photons and
measure it? *I mean, this is how you really gain a critics respect
(heck, you'd even gain acknowledgment from the arrl, well,
most-likely--well, I think you would--IMHO anyway, etc.) -- now, the
question to separate the men from the boys -- now, have you?
pleasant-innocent-smile

Geesh! *looks-out-window

Regards,
JS

I should have used black holes as my example. One only needs to accept
that black holes exist in order to believe that gravity affects the
property of mass inerent in light ;-)

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On Sep 16, 8:32*pm, "JB" wrote:
What, this is not the "Pulling Your Leg Festival?"

Damn, it appears I have caught the wrong door again! *Last time this
happened, it was a womens restroom, at walmart, no less :-( -- at least
this is less embarrassing ... grin

ROFLOL
I did that at a technical seminar in a hotel once. *I was pondering the
ramifications of the training and didn't even look at the door. *It wasn't
until the only woman there rushed in (probably preoccupied as well) and
plopped down and peed that it dawned on me that there was something very
very wrong!

In any case, Art seems to have trouble articulating and I have completely
lost touch with any sense he might have made somewhere in the great pile of
this thread.

I get that even though a resonant dipole can be treated as if it were a
lumped constant at times, it really isn't that. *Do electrons fly back and
forth down the pole and induce a magnetic field? *
No, they are generating a magnetic field when the current is at the
surface
which means eddy currents are also there. neither of these appear when
the current is enclosed

Without flying off the
ends? Yes but that is hard to make sense of because there should be no
current flow in an open wire.
The wire may be open but the current flow IS closed

*A loop element maybe, but the resonant loop
has the same current as the center fed dipole. *Perhaps looking at the
re-entrant cavity makes more sense.

John you are equating resonance with equilibrium, a dipole in antenna
terms is a half wavelength
resonant but not in a state of equilibrium. Equilibrium is a staple in
this Universe. First comes equilibrium
after which you may consider resonance.......but not the reverse. Both
of the samples are of a half wave length thus it is not in
equilibrium.
Equilibrium comes first in the satisfaction analysis, if it fails all
falls apart.
Best regards
Art

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On Sep 16, 8:44*pm, Tom Ring wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:

John, the danger in using mc squared is that it has not stood the test
of time.

Next thing he'll claim is that nuclear fission doesn't release energy.

tom
K0TAR

Oh Tom! bound particles means a LARGE force binding particles
together.
Break them apart and you release a large amount of energy which you
cannot destroy.
With heavy water you have two bound particles, the particles
themselves are weak in energy.
But then you are trying to get away from the subject at hand in this
thread.
Want to start atomic stuff then start a thread and attract those who
are interested in that.
Think antennas and radiation
Art

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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:07 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

No respionse

Well that comes as no surprise that you can't do a Newtonian
calculation. OK, that is one down.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC