On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:47:54 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

On Sep 16, 4:32*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Photons have zero rest mass.
a photon at rest, how droll.
Cecil, this sounds like a regular poster David.Perhaps he is pulling
your leg with his nonsence

We know that we can accelerate an electron to 90% of the speed of
light - it happens every femtosecond in one of any 100 billion crt
displays still glowing in the world. Some of us know its mass at this
speed. A question for the Newtonian philosopherz:
"What is the mass of a photon traveling at 90% of the speed of
light?"

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:19:14 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:47:54 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

On Sep 16, 4:32*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Photons have zero rest mass.
a photon at rest, how droll.
Cecil, this sounds like a regular poster David.Perhaps he is pulling
your leg with his nonsence

We know that we can accelerate an electron to 90% of the speed of
light - it happens every femtosecond in one of any 100 billion crt
displays still glowing in the world. Some of us know its mass at this
speed. A question for the Newtonian philosopherz:
"What is the mass of a photon traveling at 90% of the speed of
light?"

Ah, yes!

No Newtonians in this crowd. Perhaps it was the relativistic term
"speed of light" that confused this group so much. Let's restate it
in units that Newton could have appreciated.

We know that we can accelerate an electron to 167,770 miles/s - it
happens every femtosecond in one of any 100 billion crt
displays still glowing in the world. Some of us know its mass at this
speed. A question for the Newtonian philosopherz:
"What is the mass of a photon traveling at 167,770 miles/s?"

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Sep 16, 7:58*pm, Richard Clark wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:19:14 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:47:54 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

On Sep 16, 4:32*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Photons have zero rest mass.
a photon at rest, how droll.
Cecil, this sounds like a regular poster David.Perhaps he is pulling
your leg with his nonsence

We know that we can accelerate an electron to 90% of the speed of
light - it happens every femtosecond in one of any 100 billion crt
displays still glowing in the world. *Some of us know its mass at this
speed. *A question for the Newtonian philosopherz:
* *"What is the mass of a photon traveling at 90% of the speed of
* *light?"

Ah, yes!

No Newtonians in this crowd. *Perhaps it was the relativistic term
"speed of light" that confused this group so much. *Let's restate it
in units that Newton could have appreciated.

We know that we can accelerate an electron to *167,770 miles/s - it
happens every femtosecond in one of any 100 billion crt
displays still glowing in the world. *Some of us know its mass at this
speed. *A question for the Newtonian philosopherz:
* * * * "What is the mass of a photon traveling at 167,770 miles/s?"

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Irrelavent.. No respionse

Art Unwin wrote:
...
73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Irrelavent.. No respionse

Ahh, you noticed! Finally! ROFLOL!

Regards,
JS

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:18:15 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Irrelavent.. No respionse

Ahh, you noticed! Finally! ROFLOL!

And now we have Brett rolling on the floor with Art as two down.

That pretty much closes down the mutual admiration society of
Newtonian Philosopherz.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:

...
And now we have Brett rolling on the floor with Art as two down.

That pretty much closes down the mutual admiration society of
Newtonian Philosopherz.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard:

Thanks!

I really thought you forgot about me, yanno'? frown

Regards,
JS

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:43:35 -0700, John Smith
wrote:
And now we have Brett rolling on the floor with Art as two down.

That pretty much closes down the mutual admiration society of
Newtonian Philosopherz.
I really thought you forgot about me, yanno'? frown

Just waiting for Cecileo to sign in for the last of the Three Stoogz.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:07 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

No respionse

Well that comes as no surprise that you can't do a Newtonian
calculation. OK, that is one down.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:37:27 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:07 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

No respionse

Well that comes as no surprise that you can't do a Newtonian
calculation. OK, that is one down.

Ummm... that wasn't Newton. No quantum effects in Newton's work. That
was Einstein's theory of special relativity. See gamma.
http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/theory/relativity.html


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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:18:37 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

Ummm... that wasn't Newton. No quantum effects in Newton's work.

Hi Jeff,

167,770 miles/s is hardly quantum speed but it is achievable in
electrons and photons.

At last report
F = M · A
was Newton's work among two other laws (something the trio can't
manage to compute). Art can't even manage parity here.

If the prospects of error due to Quantum effects appear to be ugly,
then any could have named a lower figure that is tolerable.
Unfortunately it would still require computation, and the outcome
would be those Newtonian Philosopherz would shy from an honest
scribbling on the blackboard as taking their precious gaze away from
their navels.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC