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On Nov 7, 2:41*pm, Art Unwin wrote:

Many others on this group Richard included don't know how to operate
computors let alone
work on antenna programs themselves so they are not talking from
experience but from teachings reeived

How could you be on this group without knowing how to operate
a computer?

Sooner or later somebody with some smarts
and some get go will look at things for themselves and test thgem out
on a computor which now apears to be accepted by all and then decide
whether they want to build on them or not,

This should read "sooner or later Art will grow some smarts and will
look at things for himself, and test them out on a computer if he
feels
so compelled, and then decide if he wants to build one or not. "

At this late stage in the game, I would have thought you would
have made a decision by now. You know, like build the freakin
thing and test it out against radiators of known properties.
In some parts of civilization, this is called "falling asleep at the
wheel".
:/

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"Frank" wrote in message
news:hwjQk.677$xJ3.560@edtnps83...
Link at: http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm
Click on "Next" for the 2nd page of math showing the development
of the wave equation.

Are you suppressing a 3rd page of math showing equal librium? It must
be there according to Art's revisionist discovery of Newton's laws for
the Unified Theory of RF Fields. ... maybe the 7th or 8th page then.
42nd page?

No, Sorry Richard. Nothing about "Equal librium" in 1200 pages.

73,
Frank, VE6CB

To clarify the math, I have added some relevant pages to:
http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm

Frank

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On Nov 7, 3:59*pm, "Frank" wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message

news:hwjQk.677$xJ3.560@edtnps83...

Link at:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm
Click on "Next" for the 2nd page of math showing the development
of the wave equation.

Are you suppressing a 3rd page of math showing equal librium? *It must
be there according to Art's revisionist discovery of Newton's laws for
the Unified Theory of RF Fields. *... maybe the 7th or 8th page then..
42nd page?

No, Sorry Richard. Nothing about "Equal librium" in 1200 pages.

73,
Frank, VE6CB

To clarify the math, I have added some relevant pages to:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm

Frank

What is the name of the actual book you are quoting from? Time and
time again we get a quote from books
by some members of this group where it is then used totally out of
context. As an aside I am not quite sure what your intent is to supply
these formula. If it is to substantiate a point then I have totally
missed it.
Many thanks for the postings and efforts
Regards
Art

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On Nov 7, 7:55*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Nov 7, 3:59*pm, "Frank" wrote:



"Frank" wrote in message

news:hwjQk.677$xJ3.560@edtnps83...

Link at:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm
Click on "Next" for the 2nd page of math showing the development
of the wave equation.

Are you suppressing a 3rd page of math showing equal librium? *It must
be there according to Art's revisionist discovery of Newton's laws for
the Unified Theory of RF Fields. *... maybe the 7th or 8th page then.
42nd page?

No, Sorry Richard. Nothing about "Equal librium" in 1200 pages.

73,
Frank, VE6CB

To clarify the math, I have added some relevant pages to:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm

Frank

What is the name of the actual book you are quoting from? Time and
time again we get a quote from books
by some members of this group where it is then used totally out of
context. As an aside I am not quite sure what your intent is to supply
these formula. If it is to substantiate a point then I have totally
missed it.
Many thanks for the postings and efforts
Regards
Art

Oooops I have just noticed the book reference. As far as what is
printed I would like to hear somebody say that it confirms my thinking
which is why you brought it forward but you did not say that. Maybe
somebody with mathematical knoweledge will come forward to show how it
disproves what I say
but I doubt that, most will revert to the talking head stance.
Any way Frank I like how things are printed so I will try the library
to see if they have a copy. I was particularly interested in the slow
wave comment as that was also derided on this newsgroup.
Best regards
Art

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:12:27 -0800 (PST), Art Unwin
wrote:

As far as what is
printed I would like to hear somebody say that it confirms my thinking

That you invented a time component to Gauss' equations and Maxwell
didn't? Fishing for validation or for Moby Dick? At least Ahab
nailed a gold dollar to the mast for the first one to spot the great
white whale.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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On Nov 8, 1:25*am, Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:12:27 -0800 (PST), Art Unwin

wrote:
As far as what is
printed I would like to hear somebody say that it confirms my thinking

That you invented a time component to Gauss' equations and Maxwell
didn't? *Fishing for validation or for Moby Dick? *At least Ahab
nailed a gold dollar to the mast for the first one to spot the great
white whale.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

As a non engineer and somebody who is wired diferntly from the norm
it is undestandable that you have problems with Maxwell equations.
Gaus did contriubute to the Maxwellian laws which is accepted. The
static law wsas not
the particular gaussian contribution. Many have taken this that tho
Gauss contributed to
Maxwells laws it was not by way of his law of statics thus some have
taken this as pointing
to statics as something different and separate from electromechanics,
Science has excepted that
equilibrium is as universal as the GUT theorem which is why Einstein
searched so long to identify
the "weak" force. I remember a decade ago where I pointed to water
cavitation having the same
effect in electrical matters pointing to the comnbines loop dipole
arrangement where cavitation
occurs so that voltage can be a maximum at the dipole ends and where
llewellen quickly pointed
out that electricity does not work that way likening it to pushing to
a new science. am totally unaware
and nobody has pointed otherwise that the law of statics had a
deinitive connection to Maxwells laws
which points to radiators of a smaller volume and the identification
of the weak force. You can gabble forever
in knee jerk reaction to my postings but until you provide scientific
technology to the subject to repudiate what I state
you will remain a person that is wired diffgerently from other males
that communicats in a strange
way such gthat all meaning is totally obscurred in your search for
like minded people thatg you can have a close relationship with
in a like minded way. I for one are not one of that life style so get
off my back.

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On Nov 7, 8:12*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Nov 7, 7:55*pm, Art Unwin wrote:



On Nov 7, 3:59*pm, "Frank" wrote:

"Frank" wrote in message

news:hwjQk.677$xJ3.560@edtnps83...

Link at:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm
Click on "Next" for the 2nd page of math showing the development
of the wave equation.

Are you suppressing a 3rd page of math showing equal librium? *It must
be there according to Art's revisionist discovery of Newton's laws for
the Unified Theory of RF Fields. *... maybe the 7th or 8th page then.
42nd page?

No, Sorry Richard. Nothing about "Equal librium" in 1200 pages.

73,
Frank, VE6CB

To clarify the math, I have added some relevant pages to:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm

Frank

What is the name of the actual book you are quoting from? Time and
time again we get a quote from books
by some members of this group where it is then used totally out of
context. As an aside I am not quite sure what your intent is to supply
these formula. If it is to substantiate a point then I have totally
missed it.
Many thanks for the postings and efforts
Regards
Art

Oooops I have just noticed the book reference. As far as what is
printed I would like to hear somebody say that it confirms my thinking
which is why you brought it forward but you did not say that. Maybe
somebody with mathematical knoweledge will come forward to show how it
disproves what I say
but I doubt that, most will revert to the talking head stance.
Any way Frank I like how things are printed so I will try the library
to see if they have a copy. I was particularly interested in the slow
wave comment as that was also derided on this newsgroup.
Best regards
Art

Frank
What you have done is to bring to the fore front modern thinking in
science that has emerged since
the thinking of Jackson and Termin and become nmore in line with
Einstein and particle theory.
It without doubt confirms the thinking of the Grand universal theory
by the inclusion of Staic law
tho without the conclusive proof that Gauss;s static law provides but
even so arrives at a common conclusion.
It plkeases me very much that it is now used in college education so
that the present generation will not bemind bound
by the past. I was especially pleased with the reference to "slow
wave" which is a very importabt component to Maxwells laws
that has been ommited in the past. Regardles that the author did not
reference specifically the statics law he is very implicite
with respect to the commonality of statics with with respect with
electro magnetics which I thank you very much for bringing it to the
attention of others.
This follows your effots in showing that NEC computor programs do
indeed support the idea of arrays in equilibrium when you provided a
computor analysis showing radiators that were resonant and at
different angles to each other because of the addfition of the angle
requirement of the weak force.
You are to be commended for studying the statements for yourself to
confirm their veracity instead of the attitude of the talking heads.,
I look forward to your future posts
Very best regards
Art Unwin KB9MZ.......XG

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Art wrote:
"Frank, What is the name of the actual book you are quoting from?"

Read the posting!

"Engineering Eleactromagnetics, 2nd edition", Nathan Ida, ISBN
0-387-20156-4."

My unsolicited comment: Lyndon Johnson once described someneone like you
approximately as: "He couldn`t pour beer out of a boot if instructions
were stamped on the heel."

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 07:05:08 -0800 (PST), Art Unwin
wrote:

As a non engineer and somebody who is wired diferntly from the norm
it is undestandable that you have problems with Maxwell equations.

Well, Authru, it is obvious to the readers of this thread that of the
two of us, this non engineer is the one who better comprehends
Maxwell's work!

This non engineer easily observes that Maxwell contributed the
variable t (for time) to Gauss' equations. It is directly observable
on page:
http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm
at the paragraph heading (guess what?):
"The Time-Dependant Wave Equation"
This is a part of the curriculum of every EE who has attempted to
educate you to this matter. Even this non engineer has formal
training to this specific point.

You now have been offered clear, specific, and demonstrable proof that
your claims are spurious. However, I am full aware that we will
revisit those invalid claims again as if you were never aware of this
simple demonstration.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...
On Nov 7, 8:12 pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Nov 7, 7:55 pm, Art Unwin wrote:



On Nov 7, 3:59 pm, "Frank" wrote:

"Frank" wrote in message

news:hwjQk.677$xJ3.560@edtnps83...

Link at:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm
Click on "Next" for the 2nd page of math showing the development
of the wave equation.

Are you suppressing a 3rd page of math showing equal librium? It
must
be there according to Art's revisionist discovery of Newton's laws
for
the Unified Theory of RF Fields. ... maybe the 7th or 8th page
then.
42nd page?

No, Sorry Richard. Nothing about "Equal librium" in 1200 pages.

73,
Frank, VE6CB

To clarify the math, I have added some relevant pages
to:http://www3.telus.net/nighttrainexpress/maxwell_1.htm

Frank

What is the name of the actual book you are quoting from? Time and
time again we get a quote from books
by some members of this group where it is then used totally out of
context. As an aside I am not quite sure what your intent is to supply
these formula. If it is to substantiate a point then I have totally
missed it.
Many thanks for the postings and efforts
Regards
Art

Oooops I have just noticed the book reference. As far as what is
printed I would like to hear somebody say that it confirms my thinking
which is why you brought it forward but you did not say that. Maybe
somebody with mathematical knoweledge will come forward to show how it
disproves what I say
but I doubt that, most will revert to the talking head stance.
Any way Frank I like how things are printed so I will try the library
to see if they have a copy. I was particularly interested in the slow
wave comment as that was also derided on this newsgroup.
Best regards
Art

Frank
What you have done is to bring to the fore front modern thinking in
science that has emerged since
the thinking of Jackson and Termin and become nmore in line with
Einstein and particle theory.
It without doubt confirms the thinking of the Grand universal theory
by the inclusion of Staic law
tho without the conclusive proof that Gauss;s static law provides but
even so arrives at a common conclusion.
It plkeases me very much that it is now used in college education so
that the present generation will not bemind bound
by the past. I was especially pleased with the reference to "slow
wave" which is a very importabt component to Maxwells laws
that has been ommited in the past. Regardles that the author did not
reference specifically the statics law he is very implicite
with respect to the commonality of statics with with respect with
electro magnetics which I thank you very much for bringing it to the
attention of others.
This follows your effots in showing that NEC computor programs do
indeed support the idea of arrays in equilibrium when you provided a
computor analysis showing radiators that were resonant and at
different angles to each other because of the addfition of the angle
requirement of the weak force.
You are to be commended for studying the statements for yourself to
confirm their veracity instead of the attitude of the talking heads.,
I look forward to your future posts
Very best regards
Art Unwin KB9MZ.......XG

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To bring all of this down to Earth, I refer all to the old axiom, "Never mud
wrestle with a pig, yada yada yada..."

Ed, NM2K